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Everyone seems to see their teachers dishing out attention to those who are messing around in class and misbehaving and get sick of it. Do you feel like this in your school? What do you think the teachers should do in these situations?
An example of this, "Miss can you come and take a look over my work" a student asks, "Now Eddie, there is no need to throw pens at the blackboard" she says and completely misses what the student said. It really is just stupid that theyre having to discipline people who should know better by this age.
Personally I feel that if a student is misbehaving he simply shouldnt be welcome to gain anymore education from that particular lesson and be packed off to either isolation or told to stand outside of the class, the first being more preferable. As soon as a student is misbehaving I think they should be told to leave the room in a case where the teacher would need to pay full attention to them. Seriously it is messing up other peoples education, especially around exam times.
Well if it is disrupting the class enough to a point where I would have to give them my full attention for example throwing things around then yes. It also depends on age, if a 14-16 year old was doing things like this they should be given a quick warning first and then sent out, others are losing out because of people like this so yeah I would not want them being in the lesson if they were to continue.
The answer is simple. Get stricter.
They have places where students who misbehave go, we call it ISS (In School Suspension). I've been once in my live, though in my case that just so happened the be the only place quiet enough to work.
If it wasn't tolerated then it would happen a lot less.
When I was still going to school, if it was just a few people talking then the whole class would have to stay after (I remember having to run from Math to English a lot).
But hell teachers nowadays don't care because they don't have to care as they can't get fired and their pay will stay the same anyway.
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hmm i agree.
At my school most my classes are really naughty so the whole class just gets told of the whole lesson and we don't actually learn anything :/
so you would throw out a student if he's misbehaving?
but for some students it might be a ticket to dich school... or at least the lesson...
That's why you must provide the students who are misbehaving incentive to fix their act. Where I live, schools have this absence system. If you're late for a class, don't come to a class, miss and entire day without your parents contacting the school the same day or after, or are kicked out of a class, you get 1 point. 35 points and your grade from Behavior is lowered and cannot be fixed. You're expelled when your grade goes below D, from A. Sounds like it could take a while to get to the point where you're expelled, but it piles on. Your points are collected throughout the entire year. I had nearly 200 points for the first semester, but they were all excused because my absences were excused by doctors notes and school being notified of why I'm leaving/not in class. Additionally, if you're not present for 1/3 of the classes of any given subject, you have to take an exam covering all the material of said subject in front of a commission of 3 professors at the end of the year or you can't graduate.
If troublesome students are faced with the reality that they will be held from graduating and such, they usually will improve; if not now then when they're forced to deal with the consequences of their actions.
It's all a mind game with these self-proclaimed hooligans. Show them that they can't be troublemakers without their life ending up in the gutter and they'll show improvements. Of course that can't be said for everybody- and I've known people who have gone as far as getting 10 assault charges by the end of 15 and evading those charges in court- but for the majority of people it does work.
I think the purpose of school is to learn. For that to happen, I suppose there needs to be a bit of discipline. However, if there's so much that's required that it detracts from the primary purpose of school...learning..then the individual in question has some real issues that need attention in another environment, and by people with a different set of skills.
There'a a certain amount of tolerance required for all of us humans to get along on this increasingly crowded planet of ours. However, for that to happen there needs to be an basic understanding and agreement on how to live and work together. If that cannot happen after repeated attempts to work towards the common good, the humanistic approach is to recognize those with 'special needs' and find them the place (and people) who are best equipped to address their needs.
To me, it's not punishment, it recognizing the needs of those who cannot function in a mainstream environment.
I think its really unfair on kids who are trying to learn and do well, but dont get any help cause others are mucking up. At the same time, i know that especially when i was in lower school everyone messed up most teachers,, i think as you grow up it generally stops though because you want to do well and pass your exams and you learn to be more respectful. You get detentions etc. and you grow out of it. i think the problem starts is when some people just dont, and when everyone starts to want to actually do well and some people stop then maybe they should be excluded if its something continuous. But before that there should be other approaches, cause just some kids are not 'school kids', and also To be honest a lot of kids who muck up in school have a reason they do it, maybe that should be dealt with rather then punishment, that should always be a last resort...
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If a student is misbehaving its all for attention. So, if they do misbehave send them out (only if very badly, if minor warn them first), if the class starts laughing send them up with them because they are encouraging it. Simple.