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Okay, so I was watching this program about the Nostradamus Effect and this episode was titled "Satan's Army". And some of what they said made sense, though they said they are merely presenting the facts of biblical scholars, scientists, and others (because the one thing they all manage to agree on is the end of the world).

The 7 Seals are this:

- First Seal - Religious Conquest/False Prophets, White horse
- Second Seal - Conflict War, Red Horse
- Third Seal - Famine & Drought, Black Horse
- Fourth Seal - Death, green or Pale Horse
- Fifth Seal - Vision of martyrdom or martyrs
- Sixth Seal - Cosmic Disturbances or Heavenly Signs and the marking of the 144,000
- Seventh Seal - Prelude To The 7 Trumpets of 7 Angels & The Final Judgment

The first can come in different forms. It's generally looked at as the manipulator of nations.
I believe the goal is to advocate peace in attempts to lower barriers which makes may for the second as the second seal is broken right after the first.
So basically, it's someone who gains the trust of the people, manipulates other nations, advocates peace, but is actually the most sinister of them all - the Antichrist.
It's also looked at as a powerful world leader, appearing benevolent and to only want good for you.

I personally believe that it doesn't happen all at once, if you look over time you can see this happening everywhere - esp. with Hitler. Which lead to what? Conquest and War. A World War, which is often looked to be the type of war responsible of the second - and because of lowered defenses it has a better chance of destroying powerful enemies easier.

The third is already occurring. Supposedly this is the result of world economies crashing. Which, if you know anything about history, gave us the Great Depression. Because, the people were to heavily taxed - which is also why the third carries scales.

The forth is death and has the power to control death. I believe 1/3 of the world population is to die during this time - I may be mistaken on the number though.
Anyway, supposedly we are in this stage right now.


What I have noticed is that these things have also occurred over different times.
I personally think it's too coincidental - unless the stupidity of humans is even greater than I thought as apparently things that happened in the past can't possibly happen now (even though they can). Which only leads me to think that leaders today are ignorant and arrogant that just because they are leading it means it won't go wrong - even though they do exactly the same things as before.

But what I've also noticed is a period of awakening during these events where the people put a stop to things that were going on.
Which leads me to believe that all the seals will break when the people no longer will stop these things from happening.

Now, number 6 is what has me a little confused. Last I heard there were some cosmic disturbances, though I don't know much about it - which could suggest we are currently in the 6th. Though I don't believe 5 has happened yet. Now, it could have and I missed it, but I don't know - have there been any recent martyrs yet?
Though, it did say visions and as of late (totally out of nowhere) I have been thinking about martyrs such as Jeanne d'Arc. Which I find odd as I haven't thought of any since a report I had to do years ago.
That, however, is just me.
Although, Ri Hyon Ok was recently executed (close to a year ago) in N. Korea for handing out Bibles. So, Martyrdom is still happening.

As for the seventh, well, I don't know:
"When the seventh seal is opened, seven angels with trumpets begin to sound, one by one. The events of the seventh seal are further subdivided by the events following each angel sounding their trumpet. This seal is opened in Revelation 8, and the seventh angel does not sound until Revelation 11."


So while I won't believe in the happening of that end until it reaches catastrophe - I still believe we could be in it, but I also believe history can teach us how to prevent it.
Because, it happens because we are no longer fit to live - in the past, people raising up has shown their right to live.
I believe these are tests with the outcome not set in stone. So really I think the end is up to us - if we raise up then it won't happen, but if we just accept things as-is then it will happen.


So that's my outlook on it, doesn't really make it true though. Like I said, won't believe it until it reaches catastrophe - at that point what I believe could be confirmed.

So, thoughts, opinions?

Personally I think the world will end when it end, either the Sun will supernova and we'll all be stuck on Earth or we'll all just kill each other until there's nobody left. I doubt there will be any kind of prophecy leading up to it or angels with trumpets or anything, it'll just happen.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the Apocalypse though. Do you mean the extinction of the human race, or the destruction of planet Earth, or the death of the whole Universe? And I'm not sure what you mean by the 'right to live' either.

Sorry for the double post, my browser went all weird.

I cant wait when the world dies.
I will make a Armagedon party.Your all can come.

We fight against what we know is wrong rather than accept it and surrender. When things go wrong, people revolt - that proves we can still think for ourselves, proves we still have morality, therefore it proves as a whole we are worthy of life.

"An Apocalypse (Greek: Ἀποκάλυψις Apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted. In a rather common-sensical way the term is associated with an eschatological final battle, the Armageddon, and the idea of an end of the world due to out of time."

The end involves a great battle between Angels and Demons. Anyone with "the mark of the beast" is considered a demon - in other words, those who listen to the Unholy Trinity, the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet and Satan. Those who are unworthy will die, those who are worthy will be saved.
It's basically the end of all life on Earth. It will be hell on earth for seven years then Christ will rule for 1000 years.

That's the gist of it at least.

Some of it is metaphorical. Trumpets can simply mean a warning - I think it means that the natural disasters are our warning.
Though, the last warning is supposed to be silence.

The prophecy already exists, I believe it will happen, I also believe people will be in denial of it happening until it's too late for them to be saved - which will be exactly what is desired of demons because the Anti-Christ is supposed to be manipulation.

"Mes chers frères, n'oubliez jamais, quand vous entendrez vanter le progrès des lumières, que la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!"
[["My dear brothers, never forget, when you hear the progress of enlightenment vaunted, that the devil's best trick is to persuade you that he doesn't exist!"]]
Or as a movie quote:
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

That's what I think at least.