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View Poll Results: Do you support Obama Care?
Yes 5 62.50%
Now 2 25.00%
Who cares? We're all going to die in 2012 anyways. 1 12.50%
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Old 02-04-10, 02:52 PM   #1
 
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Don't we have a topic about this already?

I don't feel like ranting about it, again, as I hate -intentionally- repeating myself.

Do. Not. Want.

There. And you put "now" instead of "no".









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I predict that half the votes are going to be based off of something completely unrelated to the reform itself.

I'm a supporter of it, and unlike 90% of the opinions of the bill, I actually know why I think the way I do.

And Marietta, the reasoning behind your dislike for the reform is outright absurd; your post resembled a nonsensicle rant more than anything.

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And you put "now" instead of "no".
Sorry, I type fast so I don't really pay attention when I do that.




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And Marietta, the reasoning behind your dislike for the reform is outright absurd; your post resembled a nonsensicle rant more than anything.
Which is interesting considering I didn't post anything in here.

When I'm pissed, I get nonsensical, that doesn't man I'm incorrect though.
Besides, I really couldn't give two shits of a lick what you think or anyone else for that matter. =D

I couldn't care if God himself said the bill was awesome - if it involves government controlling it, it's not gonna work. It happened with the postal service and education and government intervention is actually what made they system now suck. What we need and what the people want is 180 degrees the opposite.
Government doesn't know what's best for me, I know what's best for me.

And unlike most people, I know this as a fact because I can look at history and see these things. I also know Economics 101 which is all you really need to know to know anything about Economics and one thing is that if demand is greater than supply - prices will go up and considering roughly 40% of doctors will quit the supply lowers even more which will make the price higher.

That is a fact most people fail to realize. And I know why I think the way I do as well.

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Which is interesting considering I didn't post anything in here.
The operative words being 'in here'. You did, however, post everything that you believe to be true in the previous thread regarding the reform, to which I replied.

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When I'm pissed, I get nonsensical, that doesn't man I'm incorrect though.
Most of what you wrote wasn't even relevant the to reform itself, so there was little room for you to be wrong. I suppose I have to agree with you on this one, because why your opinion is outright absurd, it's not wrong per se. Some of the information you were fed about the bill, however, were wrong, however little of that there was in your post.

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Besides, I really couldn't give two shits of a lick what you think or anyone else for that matter. =D
What's the purpose of posting in a debate forum if you're not going to debate yet dismiss every other argument citing you don't give two shits of a lick? To me, that sounds somewhat counterproductive. Debate isn't a massive, bloody argument in which two or more parties throw derogatory nouns at each other.

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Government doesn't know what's best for me, I know what's best for me.
I'll ask you to refer to my post in the original thread (if you care enough to do so) as I've already went through this.

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And unlike most people, I know this as a fact because I can look at history and see these things. I also know Economics 101 which is all you really need to know to know anything about Economics and one thing is that if demand is greater than supply - prices will go up and considering roughly 40% of doctors will quit the supply lowers even more which will make the price higher.
>I know Economics 101
>roughly 40% of doctors will quit
>implying health care reform will cause nearly half the physicians will quit and that you have viable knowledge of economics and the inner workings of the health care system


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That is a fact most people fail to realize.
It's not fact, it's fiction.

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And I know why I think the way I do as well.
That's funny, because a good part of what you've said on this topic is either completely false or completely irrelevant to the bill.
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Both of you have some valid points on this subject. The only thing is, nobody has read the entire bill about Obama Care, so no one is really sure about what all the aspects are.

The bill would call for every one to have health care, something that many can't afford. But companies will no long be allowed to deny health care to workers with pre-existing conditions.

The bill does say that it will lower costs for health care so that more people who do not have it, or lost it, will have the chance to obtain health care.

While I am not a huge supporter of Barack Obama, I am 50/50 on Health Care Reform bill. He did, however, wrongly accuse 47 million Americans of not having Health Care.
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The Census Bureau says that there are only 35.92 million uninsured Americans and that this number includes 9.1 million people who earn more than $75,000 a year and simply choose not to purchase insurance.
Here's a link to some information about the Health Care bill: http://www.cnsnews.com/PUBLIC/conten...x?RsrcID=51443 [cnsnews.com]

The bill has bad qualities as well as good qualities. I say let's give it a try before judging it so quickly.




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The bill has bad qualities as well as good qualities. I say let's give it a try before judging it so quickly.
Agreed on both counts. Before fleeing the country or blowing a casket, see how the bill really affects you.
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