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Old 03-07-10, 01:16 PM   #21
 
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I'm kind of a cold person, so this may sound weird to you.

"Life" is overrated.
A newborn baby still isn't any different from an animal in it's state of mind. And we kill animals everyday.

Also it's not really any of your buisness to decide whether somebody else can have an abortion or not. I see how you care for the poor helpless babys, but I just don't.

So pro choice.


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Morally, I think it's wrong. Legally, I don't think a group of men should have the right to tell all women what they can and cannot do with their bodies just because they don't agree with it.

And sometimes I think I'm pro-abortion I don't think I would be too upset if the human race was extinct.


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Abortion is a MURDER. I think that mother musn't decide about life of her children. It's new person and it should has all right to life like everybody else.
Abortion should be legal only if life of mother or baby is in danger or if girl/woman was raped.




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Old 06-07-10, 10:33 PM   #24
 
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I am pro life to the fullest extent. It is murder. Babies have heart beats while in the womb, obviously that means it is living, and if we can't kill full size men and women without consequences, then why should we be able to kill babies? They are the future, we can't kill our future. Its just morally wrong. If the baby is not wanted by its mother there are many other outlets for the babies life. Adoption. Some of the best people I have ever met have come from adopted homes. Also, as Amber said, just becuase it has a defect doesnt mean anything. The baby can still be loved. My best friends have a little sister with down syndrom. There are 14 kids in their family, and they kept Benita, and let me tell you she is the cutest, most beautiful little girl I have ever met. A life is a life. It should be given the chance to live.
I agree %100 percent with this.

I think abortion is murder. Just because the baby is different and has some other mentalities to them doesn't mean you should just kill them. Each baby has a right to a life, a chance to breath, and chance to walk and a chance to experience life. No matter what's different about them. If you can't provide for a baby give them up for adoption, give them a chance to live with a good family. One of my close friends is adopted and there's nothing wrong with him.

Even if you become pregnant when you're a teen, there's no reason to kill your baby. If you can't provide for him/her, have an open adoption or just have them adopted.

Like Barnett said, if we can't kill grown men or women without some type of consequence, then why should killing a baby who hasn't had a chance to breath air make any difference?




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If you can't provide for a baby give them up for adoption, give them a chance to live with a good family. One of my close friends is adopted and there's nothing wrong with him.
I don't think anyone's suggested that just because someone's adopted, there's going to be 'something wrong with them'.
If you're unable to provide for a baby, there's a chance that you're similarly unable to adequately provide for a pregnancy.

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Even if you become pregnant when you're a teen, there's no reason to kill your baby. If you can't provide for him/her, have an open adoption or just have them adopted.
Literally 'no reason' to remove the fetus? Even if it's killing you, or if the pregnancy is ectopic?
There are myriad factors to consider with teen pregnancy. Regardless of the eventual fate of the fetus, few teenagers will be mentally and emotionally prepared for the changes that their body goes through and the responsibility that pregnancy entails. Can you imagine the attitude that a teenage girl might have if she's carrying a baby that she doesn't want? And teen pregnancy can interrupt studies, alienate family members and create a pariah out of the mother-to-be at an age where acceptance of social norms is crucial. Giving the baby up for adoption is a sweet sentiment, and it sounds fair and just in theory, but it almost promises an interlude in the future that can completely disrupt your life, and I imagine there are numerous psychological problems that can accompany it.
I'm not saying that opting for an abortion will be without its complications; in fact I'm sure it'll create its own psychological problems, and likely feelings of guilt and remorse possibly throughout life. And I'm not saying that abortion should ever be used as a method of contraceptive. But should contraception fail and, in certain situations, there does need to be the option of abortion.
Preserving the potential life of a fetus is all very noble, but what about the mother? She's a life, too, and with all of the same human entitlements as that fetus.




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Literally 'no reason' to remove the fetus? Even if it's killing you, or if the pregnancy is ectopic?
There are myriad factors to consider with teen pregnancy. Regardless of the eventual fate of the fetus, few teenagers will be mentally and emotionally prepared for the changes that their body goes through and the responsibility that pregnancy entails. Can you imagine the attitude that a teenage girl might have if she's carrying a baby that she doesn't want? And teen pregnancy can interrupt studies, alienate family members and create a pariah out of the mother-to-be at an age where acceptance of social norms is crucial. Giving the baby up for adoption is a sweet sentiment, and it sounds fair and just in theory, but it almost promises an interlude in the future that can completely disrupt your life, and I imagine there are numerous psychological problems that can accompany it.
I'm not saying that opting for an abortion will be without its complications; in fact I'm sure it'll create its own psychological problems, and likely feelings of guilt and remorse possibly throughout life. And I'm not saying that abortion should ever be used as a method of contraceptive. But should contraception fail and, in certain situations, there does need to be the option of abortion.
Preserving the potential life of a fetus is all very noble, but what about the mother? She's a life, too, and with all of the same human entitlements as that fetus.
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I don't think anyone's suggested that just because someone's adopted, there's going to be 'something wrong with them'.
If you're unable to provide for a baby, there's a chance that you're similarly unable to adequately provide for a pregnancy.
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Which part? I guess the second.

Can I ask why?




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Which part? I guess the second.

Can I ask why?
In most cases, if mothers can't provide for the baby that they're carrying, it's because they're not financially stable to provide and give it everything it deserves.
In no way does that mean that they're not able to carry it for 9 months and then give it to a family who can better take care of it and give it the things it needs.

Now, if you're talking about teen moms who go out and party all the time, then I can see where you're coming from. But there's still no reason not to give it up for adoption instead of getting an abortion.








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Sorry, I don't think I was very clear. What I meant was, at an age wherein the body is physically ideal to carry a baby - so beyond your immediate teenage years. Before then, most young women aren't emotionally capable to care for a child and ergo might not be emotionally capable to carry an unwanted child for 9 months in order to give it up. And some (like those you mentioned) are unable to oversee a healthy pregnancy. Aside that, the most frequently cited medical consequences of teenage pregnancy are anaemia, pregnancy-induced hypertension, low birth weight, prematurity, intra-uterine growth retardation and even neonatal mortality.




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