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Personally if someone wants to be stupid, then I say let them be stupid!
However, they should at least choose to be stupid at an age where they can make a proper decision like an adult. 25.
I really don't think any of it should be legal though. But if it is, then the age should be raised to make sure no children who will use it not in moderation get a hold of it.
However, I'm all for prohibition. People can be lazy asses all they want, I see no point in giving some them things that will only enhance those things though.
However, while I do side with prohibition, I don't really care either way so long as no one bother me with any (but really, no one sane would, but then again no one with any ounce of respect for their brain would damage it like that either) or bother my family with any or if my family gets involved with it. That's the only time I'll really care.
In which case, I'll find everything they have and promptly turn their happy little asses in like the good and caring person I am.
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Should the drinking age be lowered?
Yes, because all we need is more drunk and stupid teenagers dying in car wrecks due to being underage and drunk while driving. Perfect sense.
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I smoke weed quite a bit (only because my friends are into it and I just end up smoking some with them) but to be honest I don't even see why it's illegal. Everyone does it so why don't they just legalise it? And alot of street crime is based around cannabis so if it was legalised all of that would disappear I think. Or is my logic bullshit? I don't really know.
Do you do any?
Will you when you're of legal age?
Should it all be legal?
Should any of it?
Should the drinking age be lowered?
Et cetera.
i drink alcohol when i am with friends, hanging out.
i am legal age already and the only thing that changed was that i am more responsible now
no, i think the drugs should be illegal..
the age here is 16 but i think it should be higher: 18
I've never done any drugs, and never had more than a splash of alcohol. I've long been on medications that aren't ideal to mix with alcohol, and I just don't have the desire to drink a whole lot so I don't. My best friend smokes weed, and so does my boyfriend, but neither of them pressure me. The most I've gotten is a little second-hand stonage from being in the car with the windows rolled up and a joint going around.
When I can drink legally, I might get a drink or two on occasion, but I can't see myself ever drinking to get drunk. Alcohol is a depressant, it makes you feel worse rather than better, and I don't want the aftereffects haha. I'll just sip my gin and tonic and watch everyone else make asses of themselves. xP
Now, legalization. Some drugs, yes, make them legal. But put a cap on how much you can get at one time, and put an age limit on it. Strictly enforce these limits. You can't drive with more than a certain amount of alcohol in you, and similarly Id say that the law would have to cover not driving under the influence of drugs. Yes, it already does, but it would need to be clarified that just because they're legal, you still can't do that. If you're tripping on LSD you don't want to drive anyway, but let's just make sure that if someone does and gets in an accident, that we can cite them the law and tell them to be more responsible, damnit. xP
Ones I would consider for legalization include: marijuana, salvia (in the US it's currently not legal in all states), LSD, mushrooms, and possibly a few others. These don't have nearly as high of an addiction rate (or don't cause addiction at all, even), and do far less damage to you body than some alternatives. They should be used responsibly and in moderation, but they should not be outlawed simply because some people are stupid. People are stupid with alcohol all the damn time, and it's legal. It's possible to overdose on some of these, but if they were legal we'd be able to educate the public about them a little easier, and people would know how to use them and how much is too much, etc. There is always potential for abuse, but with these it's more along the lines of, "I liked that, and I'd like to do it again," rather than an addiction. LSD, mushrooms, and salvia are all too potent to want to use regularly, they're purely for recreation and mostly occasional use. I'd consider them "safe".
Ones I would never consider include: heroin, cocaine, meth, ketamine (this one is sometimes used medicinally as an anesthetic, I'd be willing to let that usage stay as long as patients can't get a hold of any afterwards), opiates.... basically the more addictive substances and the ones that also do the most damage to your body. These are the ones I've nicknamed the "monsters". Some drugs can be used responsibly and purely for recreation, but these ones are harder to do that because of how addictive they are. It's not a matter of being stupid and irresponsible, it's a matter of trying it once and being hooked.
On the whole, drugs aren't as bad as the media portrays them. Some are terrible, yes, but not all. We've all heard all sorts of rumors about drugs that aren't true. Oh, they make holes in your brain, oh smoking pot will make you a zombie and ruin your life, use acid once and it will fry your brain.... Simply false.
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However, I'm all for prohibition. People can be lazy asses all they want, I see no point in giving some them things that will only enhance those things though.
It's a myth that drugs make you lazy. Weed may calm you down (unless you're the kind of person who gets all paranoid), but it doesn't turn you into a lazy person. It wears off and you're fine. It can be psychologically addictive, meaning that if you like the sensation you may want to do it again, but that comes down to self control. It's the same as alcohol, in that respect, except alcohol is actually more addictive.
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Yes, because all we need is more drunk and stupid teenagers dying in car wrecks due to being underage and drunk while driving. Perfect sense.
If the drinking age were lowered, this might happen less. Some kids experiment with alcohol because it's taboo, it's forbidden. If they weren't "sticking it to the man", maybe it wouldn't be so attractive. They're also inexperienced with it so they don't yet know their limits. Regardless of the drinking age, this much will always happen. There are adults who don't know their limits and do stupid things, it's unfair to act like it's teenagers who cause all the problems. Many kids start drinking before they're legal to do so anyway. At least make it so they don't have to sneak around. In countries where the drinking age is 18 or so, I don't think that the alcohol-related crime rates are any higher than where it's 21. Kids are simply allowed to drink at that age, rather than sneaking around to do so.
Alcohol has high potential for abuse, but people have to be allowed to make some of their own mistakes with it to learn how to use it properly, I guess. Maybe if they knew that drunk drivers have to pay out of pocket for every police officer, every fire truck, every ambulance that responds to their alcohol-related accident, they'd reconsider.
Point is, I don't know the age limit where you are; if it's 18 then by all means leave it where it is. I think here, though, it could stand to be lowered to 18.
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I honestly think the drinking age should be lowered, and definitely so in America. It's stupid you can join the army and die for your country four years before you can drink. Also, if we make alcohol less of a taboo thing kids won't feel the need to binge drink so much. Being from an Eastern European family I've had alcohol on holidays, with meals, etc. It's nothing surprising to me and I haven't gotten more than buzzed once. Now, I do believe in the drunk driving laws being strict. Too many people have died because someone decided they were still okay to drive. My state only allows .07 or less, and I'm glad.
I think drugs should stay illegal, but hardcore ones like meth, cocaine, crack, etc. Weed, on the other hand, has nothing wrong with it except the lumber industry hates hemp. A lot of what's said about ti is propaganda and clearly lies. Have you ever heard of one of the first reasons such as, "It makes white women sleep with black men"? I have also done weed before, and nothing adverse happened. Almost, if not all, the effects of weed are temporary. If tobacco is legal why is the product that isn't harmful to you not?
Jessi and I have very similar views on this subject.
I, personally, am straight edge for the most part. I say for the most part because I'd be willing to use LSD. I'd consider salvia, but I'm a little iffy about it because there hasn't been as much research conducted on it as other drugs.
Cigarettes and alcohol are like my mortal enemy. I can't even take being around someone who is smoking and my mom is a bartender. We both hate drunks. XD
I posted this on another forum and it sums up my views on the political aspect of drugs:
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The same reason why prostitution, gambling and loan sharking is illegal and demonized in the media. Tax.
The government is a business and, unfortunately, their growth in the United States has heavily expanded beyond the founders' intention. They completely ignore the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, checks and balances mean shit and taxes are astronomical. And because prostitution, gambling, loan sharking and cannabis don't perpetuate their power and demonstrates individuality from the government, they don't like it.
While I am avidly straight edge, think prostitution is groddy and would never gamble -- I don't think they should be illegal just because I, myself, don't engage in them. That's why you're wrong, neoncupcake. You said that the only good reason for its legalization is to shut up the potheads, but you're wrong. The best reason for its legalization is freedom and to stop the government's fall to authoritarianism.
This[friesian.com] website will give you a heads up on why it is an affront to our Constitution for the government to have the power it does. I don't smoke pot and I am fully in favor of its legalization. As a free society, we have to stop looking at what directly effects us and more at the easiness of a limited government.
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You have to decide if you want to put every group into its own box and only defend your own rights. Or if you will speak up for the right of someone you whole heartedly disagree with because of their freedom to do so.
As for the age in which drinking, et cetera is okay -- 18. At least in the U.S. If I'm old enough to go to war and be considered an adult, then I'm old enough to choose if I want to drink, et cetera.
There's a lot of propaganda surrounding drugs. (See here.[en.wikipedia.org]) It's important to distinguish fact from fiction.
For example, one of the most athletic professional wrestlers I know of and one of my personal fitness role models -- Rob Van Dam -- is an avid pot user. He's quite an intelligent guy (on most things anyway) and an exceptionally gifted athlete.
Prohibition never really works and usually only makes the situations worse.
Do you do any? I drink alcohol once in awhile.
Will you when you're of legal age? Yes, occasionally.
Should it all be legal? Nope
Should any of it? Only alchohol.
Should the drinking age be lowered? To 18.
Do you do any?
I used to do many, though now I only smoke, drink quite a bit, and smoke marijuana once in a while.
Will you when you're of legal age?
Yes, alcohol and cigarettes will be much easier to buy then.
Should it all be legal?
I believe that marijuana should be legalized, as it was outlawed for a very stupid reason. Also, it causes less damage than tobacco and alcohol.
Should any of it?
Alcohol and tobacco should remain legal. And perhaps dimethyltryptamine (DMT) also.
Should the drinking age be lowered?
It's already 18 in Australia. I suppose they could do so over in the US and wherever else too.
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