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Old 13-01-11, 04:31 PM   #1
 
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Default Nature or Nurture?

Is a person and their actions the result of their own nature or nurture? what do you think?

Are they naturally "evil" or does it develop due to the conditions they live in and situations they are put in?




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Old 13-01-11, 04:34 PM   #2
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I think it has to do with a bit of both. If a person is born "evil" or whatever, I believe that proper parenting can sort of knock them out of it. If a person is born good and they're treated like shit, I think otherwise unnoticed evil tendencies can become more prominent.
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Both. It's more nurture. However there's another thing as well, conscious choice. Some people just choose to be bad.









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i remember there was some author who wrote about this topic..

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I believe people are born neutral. But the MOMENT they start breathing, they start learning. What they learn completely defines then. I mean some things are genetics, but personality isn't one. Thats why twins are still different people.









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Selfish people tend to be "evil" and I think it is a trait people develop from their own experiences, and there are also psychopaths, who are born evil.




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i remember there was some author who wrote about this topic..

anyways;
I believe people are born neutral. But the MOMENT they start breathing, they start learning. What they learn completely defines then. I mean some things are genetics, but personality isn't one. Thats why twins are still different people.

So are you saying there are no genetic factors that affect how "good" we are? That's an interesting point, although twin concordance studies show that monozygotic (identical) twins have much more similar personalities that dizygotic twins (not identical; the equivalent of a normal sibling). The concordance rate obviously isn't 100% though, so it cannot really be purely nature...




Personally, I don't believe that any people are good or bad: people do good and (more often) bad things. And if a person is hard-wired to be "nice" through genetics, then are they really being nice? It's not through a conscious act of will that they are doing apparently altruistic things, and I think motives are all-important when we consider morality. "The right thing to do is only the right thing to do if one's primary reason for doing it is that it is perceived to be the right thing to do." It's hard to be good (;

If we look at it at face value, however, I'm going to have to say that it is a combination of nature and nurture. Probably leaning more toward nurture... Events that take place in the womb - are they considered nurture?




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Good and "evil" are subjective, and what may be correct to some of us, may be incorrect to others. I think the enviroment, what the person learns and what the person likes and dislikes is what makes a person who they are. So it is a matter of both.
Some people like something because they were born that way, others learn to like it or dislike it.









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Good and "evil" are subjective, and what may be correct to some of us, may be incorrect to others. I think the enviroment, what the person learns and what the person likes and dislikes is what makes a person who they are. So it is a matter of both.
Some people like something because they were born that way, others learn to like it or dislike it.
I agree with you that everyone has their own values, but I guess the "evilness" described in this thread is about ignoring other peoples importance to the point of hurting others to get what they want.




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I think it's a bit of both.
I do believe it's in the genetics but the way they are raised helps guide them.
My cousins are why I believe this.
They're from the same parents. Oldest one is Emily, youngest one is Charlotte.
Emily, right from go has had a very quite, withdrawn personality, just like her father. She also has a lot more of his genetics, such as facial features and hair colour.
Charlotte on the other hand, right from go she's been loud as all hell. That kid doesn't stop. She's quite all about getting attention, just like her mother, and she resembles her mother genetically more than she does her father.

Also you see the twins that get separated and when they get back together down the line they have similar personality traits.

Although you can both nurture and nature a lot when they're adopted. They learn from their adoptive family and up bringing, not from their birth parents but they have personality traits from the birth parents. I have one biological uncle, who was adopted out at birth, when he was 50 years old he came and saw his biological family for the first time ever and he is just so much like my mum and aunty.
I have an adoptive uncle as well (On both sides). Mum's adoptive brother is so unlike the rest of the family. It's not even funny how different he is. On dad's side his adoptive brother is so much like dad and his biological brother that when dad told me he was adopted I didn't believe him at all.

I think there is definitely some of both. I think some people are genetically programmed a certain way, some are born with very definite personalities and others are born with weak ones that build with the upbringing. I doubt very much it's only one of the two.




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Selfish people tend to be "evil" and I think it is a trait people develop from their own experiences, and there are also psychopaths, who are born evil.
I disagree. Alot of selfish people I know are the ones who will be succesful, nice and respected.

Besides, selfishness ensures survival.




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