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View Poll Results: Should abortion be illegal or should it remain legal?
Abortion should remain legal 42 56.00%
Abortion should only be allowed in certain cases (rape, deformities, incest, etc.) 14 18.67%
Abortion should be made illegal 14 18.67%
other / neutral 5 6.67%
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Old 30-11-11, 03:52 AM   #61
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I thought I'd posted on this already with all the threads on this O.o

Anyway, I'm pro-choice.









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Old 30-11-11, 03:56 AM   #62
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Pro-life = I do not agree with abortion under ANY circumstance.

Pro-Choice= I might not choose one personally, but I believe that women should have the right to choose under most circumstances and not be forced into something she isn't ready for or may not be able to handle physically or emotionally or financially.

Pro-Abortion= I see nothing wrong with abortion at all under any circumstance and would condone abortion over any other choice in the majority of unplanned pregnancies.


The sooner people start acknowledging the difference between these, the sooner you can have a proper debate. I myself am pro-abortion.

Meh, they're useful terms... the fact of the matter, though, is that people almost invariably mean different things when they use the same one of these terms. I think they can just confuse the matter- surely it just makes more sense for people to explain their views without resorting to apparentlyt ambiguous terms?



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I'm Pro-Life.

There are other options, adoption being 1 of those options.
But why should we have to choose one of those other options? What exactly is wrong with abortion?


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If your having sex, be prepared to deal with the physical & emotional consequences that it could bring.
Having an abortion is dealing with the physical and emotional consequences that pregnancy brings, is it not?
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Old 30-11-11, 04:55 AM   #63
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I personally could not give a flying fuck if you have an abortion but anyway
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What exactly is wrong with abortion?
You yourself said that there becomes a point where it does become a baby, how can you tell at what stage of development it does become one? If you have an abortion after this stage then surely you are killing a baby then?
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You yourself said that there becomes a point where it does become a baby, how can you tell at what stage of development it does become one? If you have an abortion after this stage then surely you are killing a baby then?
Yes, that is my take it on it. Presumably, though, Quentin disagrees: he seemed to be suggesting that abortion was wrong regardless of the foetus/embryo's development. Regardless, I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with him; I wanted to see/understand his reasoning.




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Abortion - Fool proof contraception.
Not fool proof unfortunately. Even some abortions fail and have to be re-done. xD

That's why for surgical procedures the woman has to be at least 4 weeks along, so the tissue is big enough that it can be confirmed.
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Meh, they're useful terms... the fact of the matter, though, is that people almost invariably mean different things when they use the same one of these terms. I think they can just confuse the matter- surely it just makes more sense for people to explain their views without resorting to apparentlyt ambiguous terms?

IMO, you can't be pro-life and then state that you make exceptions in cases of rape or incest like mny pro-lifers seem to do.

They are basically saying that murder(their words, not mine) is justified by rape or diddling a family member but where does one draw the line?
If an 18 year old impregnates his 14-17 year old girlfriend, in many places that is considered statutory rape by law.
Using many pro-lifer's logic, that girl should be able to get an abortion, no questions asked even though she KNEW the possible consequences of having sex.

I think it's important to have and stick with terms like these because having all the exceptions and shit doesn't make for a good debate. If you're going to make exceptions in one case, why not all cases?
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