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View Poll Results: Do you support Quebec's independence?
I'm Québécois and I support independence 0 0%
I'm Québécois and I'm against independence 0 0%
I'm Québécois and I'm neutral 0 0%
I'm Canadian and I support independence 0 0%
I'm Canadian and I'm against independence 1 16.67%
I'm Canadian and I'm neutral 0 0%
I'm neither and I support independence 0 0%
I'm neither and I'm against independence 4 66.67%
I'm neither and I'm neutral 1 16.67%
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Old 31-05-11, 08:28 PM   #1
 
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Default Quebec Independence Movement

Most of you have probably heard about Quebec nationalism at some point in your life, even if you aren't Canadian. This is the first thread of a collection of threads I will post at some point in the future regarding separatist movements around the world. So, I have spent quite some time researching the Quebec independence movement, as well as other movements. Canada has had several referendums asking the people if they think Quebec should become independent, and every time the majority of the people have said no. Personally I am against the independence movement, since the facts simply don't support Quebec's movement, and they wouldn't be self-sufficient. I do however recognize that the culture of Quebec is different from that of the rest of Canada.


Arguments for Independence
* In Quebec the official language is French, whereas the rest of Canada speaks English
* The goals and policies of the rest of Canada do not necessarily always align with those of Quebec
* Quebec's French culture is dying and arguably without independence or autonomy, it will eventually become like the rest of Canada
* Many separatists in Quebec feel as though the Canadian government didn't live up to it's promise for a new constitution in 1970
* Some websites recognize Quebec's distinct cultural differences from Canada, such as how Yahoo! has both Canadian and Quebecker Yahoo! Answers websites

Arguments Against Independence
* Quebec already maintains a degree of autonomy as a province of Canada
* The French language is dying out in Quebec and being replaced with English
* The withdrawal of Quebec from Canada could significantly hinder Canada's political, economic, and military strength
* The majority of the population of Quebec don't support independence or autonomy
* Terrorism committed by pro-independence guerrilla factions drives people away from supporting Quebec sovereignty
* If Quebec became independent, it would create a barrier in the middle of Canada, separating Eastern Canada and Western Canada
* It is questionable whether or not Quebec could be economically self-sufficient without the aid of Canada
* Quebec has no pre-existing constitution or framework for government
* Quebec is made up of many different ethnic groups, and an independent French-speaking Quebec could easily abuse minorities
* Historically speaking, the former French government of Quebec often ignored, suppressed, and mistreated the aboriginal population
* Many of the leaders of the separatist movement are discriminatory against the aboriginal population, including the former leader of Quebec, Robert Bourassa
* Many aboriginal tribes in Canada have expressed concerns regarding Quebec sovereignty, and some have even threatened to leave the confederacy
* The ideas on how an independent Quebec should be governed are very different, with many different parties and organizations, each with different ideological idea on what the future of Quebec should be. Many of the groups are far-left communist groups, while others are center-right and far right..


General Information
Proposed State: Quebec
Proposed Capital: Quebec City
Today Part of: Canada (Quebec)
Government: various
Population: 7,970,672 (5.63 /km2 density)
Land: 1,365,128 km2 land + 176,928 km2 water
GDP: C$303,747 billion (C$37,278 per capita)
Language: French
Culture: Canadian, French
Religion: Catholic
Denonym: Québécois, Quebecers/Quebeckers
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Old 31-05-11, 08:32 PM   #2
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Default Re: Quebec Independence Movement

How would the military work?

Quebec won't be able to exactly have a military. They don't have any money or training facilities available to them. I doubt how they could do it. Every country needs even a small military force.








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Old 31-05-11, 08:47 PM   #3
 
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How would the military work?

Quebec won't be able to exactly have a military. They don't have any money or training facilities available to them. I doubt how they could do it. Every country needs even a small military force.
A few small countries like Andorra lack a military, I think...
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Old 31-05-11, 08:55 PM   #4
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Yes but think of how much more space quebec has to defend, and in general take care of.








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