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Disclaimer: This is not a rant at the general population of America or it's Army. This is a rant at it's politics.

inb4 this thread gets locked.

How is dropping the atomic bomb on a civilian population of a city any different to crashing an aeroplane into the civilian population of a city?

How is the My Lai Massacre any different from the Utoya Island shootings in Norway?

Simple, those acts were commissioned by a Governing body in US Politics.

(Extract from My Lai Massacre on Wikipedia - The My Lai Massacre was the mass murder of 347–504 unarmed citizens in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968, conducted by "Charlie" company, 1st battalion, 20th infantry, 11th infantry brigade, of the Americal Division, United States Army. All of the victims were civilians and most were women, children (including babies), and elderly people. Many of the victims were raped, beaten, tortured, and some of the bodies were found mutilated.[2])

Yes, you are the worlds only superpower. No you should not get away with these things. We read about rapes and tortures in Libya, and we all are outraged, and we want to intervene, but there is no intervention when America does it.

I'm not generalising the US Army, your army is like any other, and I know some of the personnel are most probably wonderful people, but I'm just making a point. If America believes in Liberty, why don't those who were burnt by Napalm get it?

Most people think I hate America because I don't like the way you guys spell certain words, but the fact is, your government are fucking massive Hypocrites.

Like selling guns to Iran to fund a terrorist group in Nicaragua

(The scandal was composed of arms sales to Iran in violation of the official US policy of an arms embargo against Iran, and of using funds thus generated to arm and train the Contra militants based in Honduras as they waged a guerilla war to topple the government of Nicaragua. The Contras' form of warfare was "one of consistent and bloody abuse of human rights, of murder, torture, mutilation, rape, arson, destruction and kidnapping.)

Fucking Hypocrites.


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And some of you (not naming names) have the audacity to challenge the rights of the UK when you guys don't even have a fucking national health service. Nice.

"Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And when it does come, we no longer exist" - Epicurus

Yeah babe thats our GOVERNMENT. Not the everyday middle class lower middle class. You shouldn't hate America you should hate the government, because trust me, we hate them too. And that is kinda offensive too,Josh. I don't support the american army because one they go around killing innocent people for fun and too half of them went into the army for wrong reason. Just like war is being started. So yeah. Its not the general population is the people above us.

Oh and something else...i wouldn't trust Wikipedia, everyone here in America knows that. Not completely accurate.

Disclaimer: This is not a rant at the general population of America or it's Army. This is a rant at it's politics.

Reeeeead the post.

"Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And when it does come, we no longer exist" - Epicurus

I know but you said you hated American and I was just telling you its not us its them! ---> over there in those buildings with the seals and the chairs and the documents.

lol @ OP

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary and all those events you mentioned were in the past. The American government does do some things that I disapprove of, but England does a hell of a lot more things that are far worse than America. British politics are some of the worst in the world, far worse than America and they've become an anti-freedom liberal nanny state.

This is an interesting point. One I hadn't thought of. We (the United States) generally would condemn a nation for acts such as these and yet we have done them ourselves in the past. Although, I might suggest that something about the context of the decisions and why they were made should be evaluated to discover if the decision was warranted or not.

The rape and brutality that was inflicted upon innocent civilians was not by the decision of the United States or its governing bodies. That was the unfortunate act of rogue troops who thought they could get away with it. Sadly, because of their actions there is forever a black eye upon the United States.

The sad part is - its always in the name of "protecting our interests". Every nation has the right and obligation to protect its citizens interests. The United States is arrogant in how it protects its interests and for the most part - the world allows us to be. Whether its because they recognize our status as a superpower - or they recognize they will need our help with something at some point down the road.

America generally does what it thinks it has to do to get what it wants. And we generally regret it later. (Case and point: Bin Laden; Iraq).

"There is a sacredness in tears. They are not the mark of weakness, but of power. They speak more eloquently than ten thousand tongues. They are messengers of overwhelming grief...and unspeakable love."
- Washington Irving

This is not an England vs America thread, I hate politics in England, because right now, our Prime Minister is a fucking conservative tit.

And I refuse to believe that just because they were in the past means you can disregard them. A man was found responsible of 22 Killings in My Lai, and given a life sentence, but only server 3 and a half years under house arrest

And, I'm not denying the existence of British Atrocities in the past, if you could link me some I'd be happy to read about them. The fact is, I love things about America, mainly it's a cultural epicentre which demonstrates freedom and fair rights, I just think you need to practice what you preach.

It's not fair rights to drop bombs on a civilian population is it?

No.

"Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not here. And when it does come, we no longer exist" - Epicurus

lol, the British "Conservative Party" isn't really conservative, they're liberals. There is no truly mainstream conservative party in Britain.

Also, lol @ OP who doesn't understand war or politics.