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Old 27-08-11, 01:30 PM   #1
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Default Actional, Racial, and Ethnic Profiling: Justifiable?

Is the action of deeming someone suspicious based on their race, ethnicity,or actons justified in helping prevent worldwide terror, or is it a breach of humans rights?

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Old 27-08-11, 01:48 PM   #2
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Of course it's justifiable. It's just like profiling age or sex. It's nothing offensive, who you are is who you are but profiling things like that helps with making a profile more accurate. People need to stop being so sensitive, they really do. Things about us like age, race, sex, etc all make us who we are whether we like it or not, they add to who we are and make us. People can easily tell when they know my personality that I'm a brunette, not a blonde. that's nothing to be offended by, it's just obvious. If someone were to take some of the things ive done/said and profile it, it's easy to see I'm brunette. Same goes for age, race, sexual orientation etc.








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Default Re: Actional, Racial, and Ethnic Profiling: Justifiable?

based on their actions?
"well he has a history of violence but i think he's just misunderstood" there would be no way to find any criminals let alone terrorists without profiling by action
also if in a profile they aren't allowed to use race, gender etc then every APB for a criminal would read "person, what you want more details? sorry that's just prejudiced"




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Never. Just because it was a couple of radical Muslims that bombed the World Trade Center and the UK bombings doesn't mean every Muslim is like that. I've lived in NYC for practically all my life (living in Germany now) and it really upset me when a Muslim man or woman walked onto the train and was the target of constant staring. Same with blacks, whites, Asians, and anyone else. Just like I don't agree with Afirmative Action, and you can see my skin color. BUT that's a different discussion










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^ But that's not how a professional profiler would profile someone of that race. They profile off the race and the way they live and talk and that. Not just profiling all Muslims as terrorists because some are, being a terrorist isn't a race, ethnic, etc.

Profiling isn't judging or assuming, it's done by professionals based off of Sociology and Psychology.








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^ Which is all done by judging. I saw an therapist for over a year and a half and her exact words to me always were, "Judging by your actions and what you've told me, blah, blah, blah." There's always a cause and effect for something. Racial profiling doesn't just happen for no reason. Police officers use racial profiling all the time, and they are by no means professionals in that field.










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Its not just race- its if they look suspicious.








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^ Which is all done by judging. I saw an therapist for over a year and a half and her exact words to me always were, "Judging by your actions and what you've told me, blah, blah, blah." There's always a cause and effect for something. Racial profiling doesn't just happen for no reason. Police officers use racial profiling all the time, and they are by no means professionals in that field.
Yes because they're not going to sit there and say every time, You're saying this and this and act like this and your doing this because of this this and this reason. that's confusing, They do judge but they judge in a professional way in which is backed up by science and education and all that. It's not judging as in the loose terms a normal person would use.

It's perfectly justifiable imo to profile off of race along with other things because races do act differently, fact of life. Does it work for every single person in the world? no. But profiling is to help and it's a general idea. If you're being profiled then you most likely don't deserve much respect either because you're probably doing some crime. Males will act different cause they have a penis, woman will act different because they have a vagina. It's a different that you cannot deny just because we're both human, we're all human but we have different ethnics and most do act more so their ethnics. Not everyone, but age, sex, race, etc all add to who we are, that can't be denied and when professional profilers use that, they aren't doing it in a offensive way, it's just obvious by a lot of things that you can tell what a person is like. It can be used wrongly, but for the majority it's not wrong. And, what's the harm really? so it offends one because of their ethnics but if it helps save a child from a kidnapping rapist, or a serial killer, wouldn't you rather your race be profiled some if it helps save those people? IMO, i do.








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In my opinion, it depends on how many factors they take into consideration. Excercising extraordinary rendition or unlawful detention because someone is of a certain race solely is a basic violation of human rights. One must have more than a few reasons for detaining someone and the person who makes the decision must have been educated highly on the subject on hand. If those requirements aren't met, then in my opinion it's not really a justifiable action and becomes a human rights violation.
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I'm against it. That's like saying if one black man mugged an old lady, next time an old lady's mugged, they're going to look for black men who've mugged old ladies.




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