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Originally Posted by Poontang
So if sinning is acceptable in their social norms, then God would allow them to do it without punishment? I don't see your point... at all.
Let's apply this to a real life setting. Say I don't think murder is bad, so I go and kill an entire race, let's say the Jewish people, to try and create some Aryan race, then God won't judge me for it because I don't think it's bad?
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Love how I made this exact point to someone recently when trying to explain that I wasn't absolutely sure that Hitler would "go to hell"! Love how you disagree with it<3
Intentions are all-important in morality as I understand it... whether or not I share my understanding with God is another matter aha.
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Originally Posted by Runnadoll
The main thing I disagree with y'all with is the fact that something cannot be universally wrong. What is wrong and what is right is defined by the person. (Not by the media, I should add)
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Gotta say I disagree with this! If someone rapes someone else without realising that rape is wrong, then they have not committed a lesser evil: rather, their responsibility for the evil is diminished.
Can subjective morality really be called morality? If nothing is objectively right/wrong and it is all based upon opinion, then does it really mean anything to say that some things are right and others wrong except that the person speaking does not like said things?
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Originally Posted by MontrealRepresent
Also, just like you said, you're speaking in a hypothetical situation. But your hypothetical situation is impossibly unrealistic, because NOBODY can go on believing what they are doing is completely acceptable. EVERYBODY is exposed to what society deems acceptable and what the media portrays, which will lead them to know whatever it is that they may be doing is sinful.
Heinrich Himmler coordinated the murder of over 10 million people during the second world war. He totally believed that they had to be killed, but does that mean he should be judged differently because he was taught to hate these people?
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Avoiding the thought experiment does not resolve the issue; it avoids it. Regardless... of course people can go on believing that what they do is completely acceptable! Schizophrenics, as an extreme example? A delusion could cause them to believe that it is a moral obligation of theirs to do something immoral. Normal people can also be entirely aware of what society deems acceptable whilst still believing that society's morals are incorrect and theirs correct...
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Originally Posted by MontrealRepresent
No, because deep down he would've known that what he did was sinful in one way or another.
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This claim appears totally unsubstantiated... upon what basis are you claiming that people always know what is right "deep down"?
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Originally Posted by ChristMyRedeemer
Person X: "Rape is wrong in all cases at all times for everyone."
Person Y: "I'm going to rape you because it is morally necesary at all times for all people"
Runnadoll, who is right? The nature of the claims demonstrates they can't both be right.
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Actually, I'd posit that the nature of these claims demonstrates that they can't both be
objectively true. If truth/morality
is subjective to the individual (which I don't believe it is), then the statements do not exclude each other... of course, if truth is not objective then can one reasonably call it "truth"?
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Originally Posted by Pokemon Master
I'm fairly sure, I'm not the only one starting to get annoyed at these antics of yours
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You don't like the methodologies of classical philosophers? That's disappointing
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