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Old 31-10-11, 04:07 PM   #1
 
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Some people say the voting age should be increased, others may believe to decrease it, and i think the majority would say keep it the same.

Here are my arguments: As far as increasing the age goes, as much as I don't trust teenagers with my economic issues, I don't trust older people judging on who needs to get married. I think it is important we have young voters to "even up the tallies."

However, the problem with teenagers is that most are VERY uneducated about politics, and most just follow the status quo or what their parents think is most ideal. Which really ruins the purpose in voting period because the point in voting is to give YOUR opinion.

I personally believe there should not be an age minimum or maximum to voting. What I believe is that people should have to take a test. A test that will be a basic and relatively easy test that measures how much you know about politics. Because when it really comes down to it, you could be 55 years old and know no more about politics than your typical 9 year old. Age really doesn't determine how much you know and how much you don't know. It's all a generalization and all generalizations are bad.
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Old 31-10-11, 04:32 PM   #2
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It's all a generalization and all generalizations are bad.
Including this generalization? ^^


I personally don't think that voting age makes a whole lot of difference (although one must consider the demographics of a country. Putting the age too high, for example, in a country that has a very uneven distribution of people towards the young side may, in fact, exclude too many people from the process). The real problem with voting in a democracy is voter education and the types of people who run for office. Those are the real issues. An uneducated population may lead to the blind leading the blind and poor policy decisions. In America, I'd be a proponent of attempting to revamp the intellectual atmosphere of the country in an order to place more emphasis on the education of the young. China, for example, probably could not trainsition to a democracy very easily because of their poor treatment of intellectuals. As for the second issue that I mentioned, I'd defer you to Socrates and his critique of democracy in The Republic and his infamous ship owner analogy. One can see both of these going wrong in Russia right now. Which is one of the arguments Aslund has put forward, in an indirect way, on how market reform (so far) has succeeded and the transition to Democracy has failed. Poor education and self seeking russian nationalists have eliminated any real opposition to United Russia. Other parties that get enough votes are either Kremlin controlled or run by corrupt people trying to sell all their votes. The liberal movement and party formation has also been pretty much squashed because of these two factors. So my answer to the topic would be to say that there are more pressing issues than what age can vote.









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Old 31-10-11, 04:41 PM   #3
 
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Generalizations are bad. Classic. May have to use that.
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Including this generalization? ^^


I personally don't think that voting age makes a whole lot of difference (although one must consider the demographics of a country. Putting the age too high, for example, in a country that has a very uneven distribution of people towards the young side may, in fact, exclude too many people from the process). The real problem with voting in a democracy is voter education and the types of people who run for office. Those are the real issues. An uneducated population may lead to the blind leading the blind and poor policy decisions. In America, I'd be a proponent of attempting to revamp the intellectual atmosphere of the country in an order to place more emphasis on the education of the young. China, for example, probably could not trainsition to a democracy very easily because of their poor treatment of intellectuals. As for the second issue that I mentioned, I'd defer you to Socrates and his critique of democracy in The Republic and his infamous ship owner analogy. One can see both of these going wrong in Russia right now. Which is one of the arguments Aslund has put forward, in an indirect way, on how market reform (so far) has succeeded and the transition to Democracy has failed. Poor education and self seeking russian nationalists have eliminated any real opposition to United Russia. Other parties that get enough votes are either Kremlin controlled or run by corrupt people trying to sell all their votes. The liberal movement and party formation has also been pretty much squashed because of these two factors. So my answer to the topic would be to say that there are more pressing issues than what age can vote.

Well okay, I agree, but what side do you choose if you have to choose? lol




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Old 31-10-11, 04:53 PM   #5
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Well okay, I agree, but what side do you choose if you have to choose? lol
Keep it the way it is. It's not having clear negative effects any positive effects that may occur by moving/eliminating it would be negligible. Let's focus our attention on more pressing issues.








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i think it should be increased cause i dont think 18 year olds really care about politics plus it adds to their stress in life. it better that they wait and learn about politics before rushing into it








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The voting age is bullshit, they should lower it to like 10 years old, but make you have to pass a test, like the OP said. I, a 16 year old boy, am much more education on these political issues than most 18 year olds who are voting!
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Agreed.


Wish they'd also require a similar test for reproducing.

Just saying.
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in not bothered by politics anyway








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Old 31-10-11, 06:55 PM   #10
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Wish they'd also require a similar test for reproducing.

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I like this. This would take away almost all of child abuse. Although, how would you stop someone from reproducing?








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