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Old 15-12-11, 06:34 AM   #1
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What does everyone make of the widespread torture and brutality which the Syrian government is inflicting on its people?

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"It's rampant," says Nadim Houry, the Beirut-based deputy director of Human Rights Watch for the Middle East and North Africa, who has taken testimony on hundreds of cases of torture from Syria, "and, the odds are, if you're detained, you will be ill treated and most likely tortured. We know of at least 105 cases of people who were returned from the custody of security services in body bags to their loved ones … and those are only the ones that we know of." Mr Houry says he has evidence that tens of thousands of Syrians have been arbitrarily detained over the months.

"But we have also documented what I would call "meaningless torture" – if there is ever such a thing. They've got all the information but they want to teach you a lesson. I think that lesson is "you need to fear us". And the striking thing that I've seen is that despite that torture, people are no longer afraid. The wall of fear has been broken.
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Old 15-12-11, 11:25 AM   #2
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I think its wrong, naturally. But what is the United States going to do? Tell them they're wrong for torturing people? Puh-leeze. I don't want anymore US hypocrisy or US intervention- just keep the damned troops at home.








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I think its wrong, naturally. But what is the United States going to do? Tell them they're wrong for torturing people? Puh-leeze. I don't want anymore US hypocrisy or US intervention- just keep the damned troops at home.
As the most powerful nation on earth, you have a humanitarian duty to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
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Was Abu Ghraib or My Lai protecting those who cannot protect themselves?
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As the most powerful nation on earth, you have a humanitarian duty to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
Other powerful nations have the same duty.








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Was Abu Ghraib or My Lai protecting those who cannot protect themselves?
Whoa, don't get me wrong, I'm not America's biggest fan.

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Other powerful nations have the same duty.
I agree.
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America would be so hypocritical if we pissed on Syria's face.








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America would be so hypocritical if we pissed on Syria's face.
I know man, but these people are fighting for democracy, and being unfairly and arbitrarily tortured.
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If this duty exists, then America shouldn't be the ones to go in there. China would be a more logical choice. The first world countries should put pressure on China to send the PLA over there. Since the only place they have any interest in going is Taiwan. And China has a tendency to do things that will make the party look good to the international community, when faced with pressure (See Sanlu, SARS).
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The Chinese are most helpful when it comes to making the US look good.








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