23-12-11, 06:51 AM
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Name: Jam
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: England
Posts: 341
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Re: Prayer
Just wanna clarify that there isn't exactly a universal definition of miracle. Ask 101 people and you'll get 101 different definitions. Obviously a miracle can't be something that breaks a natural law, because natural laws are by definition unbreakable. Either miracles don't break natural laws, or natural laws aren't actually laws. To be honest, I personally consider the general idea of "miracles" somewhat redundant. Sure, God intervenes, and we can call any intervention by God a "miracle" if we want, but that isn't what most people mean.
As for God's "Divine Plan"... what exactly do you mean by that? I don't think most modern Christians actually believe that this plan encompasses everything: they believe they still have free will, and they don't tend to believe that God's plan for them is what will definitely happen. Often people just believe that God's plan is what is "best for them", and that they can choose to stray from this plan if they wish. If God's plan isn't all-encompassing, then the fact that prayer x isn't involved in God's plan doesn't necessarily mean that it won't be granted. Did God plan for me to have shampoo y in my shower this morning, or did he plan for me not to have shampoo y? Or did he perhaps simply not plan which shampoo I had this morning?
Also, is a prayer actually worthless because it doesn't achieve its original purpose? Even if a prayer will never actually alter that about which it is, does that mean it is worthless? My prayer for rain today may never made a difference to whether or not it would rain today, but that doesn't necessarily render it entirely worthless in all respects.
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