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Old 02-01-12, 09:17 AM   #21
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Questioning gods is questioning whether they are real or hypicritical etc...
Tolerating Islam is letting them believe what they want - like we should do - but also allowing it to go on in our society.
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Questioning gods is questioning whether they are real or hypicritical etc...
Tolerating Islam is letting them believe what they want - like we should do - but also allowing it to go on in our society.
Hmm, well what I intended was that there is a psychology about knowledge being a godly virtue. And all 'knowledge' that religion passes down in scripts and such are perceived as god's own words (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a bit ill in my knowledge of who wrote the Qu' ran and such).

What I meant was:

God = Knowledge = Belief.

And that's being fully shallow, but layman's terms.








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Questioning gods is questioning whether they are real or hypicritical etc...
Tolerating Islam is letting them believe what they want - like we should do - but also allowing it to go on in our society.
Well in the Muslim countries I've been to and lived in; all elements of western culture and society have been allowed and tolerated.
Obviously nobody should tolerate extremists Muslims, or extremists of any cause/religion, but I don't see the problem with allowing Moderate Muslims to continue practicing their moderate beliefs.
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Have you guys first-handed witnessed so many extremist acts?








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I've witnessed 2. I'd say that's too many for one life time. >_>
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Well in the Muslim countries I've been to and lived in; all elements of western culture and society have been allowed and tolerated.
Obviously nobody should tolerate extremists Muslims, or extremists of any cause/religion, but I don't see the problem with allowing Moderate Muslims to continue practicing their moderate beliefs.
This.

I honestly don't see radical Islam as any more or less dangerous than say, radical Christianity, or any other religion for that matter.




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The Koran



Islam means submission.



It's in the Koran to murder apostates



They're spreading liberty in countries ruled by Islamic Theocratic Fascists. And Ahmadinejad has stated numerous times he wishes to gain Nuclear status.



Wow, that's a really disgustingly evil thing to say.



Read the Koran and the hadiths, and tell me the same thing.
I read the Qur'an heaps of times and there wasn't a thing of what you've said except the fact that opstates should be killed..it's true..It's god's demand so we should just obey with our mouths shut!! I bet the Qur'an you've read was distorted!! America is making you live in a big lie and you say that it's spreading liberty?? How ignorant!! What I said wasn't evil it's the truth that you don't now..I'm an Arab and I know what's goin on among us!! Maybe you won't blv it now..but you will in the end!!








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It's in the Koran to murder apostates


Actually, it's not in the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it mention punishing apostates. Punishment is called for by scholars/clerics in the Hadiths which are written by man whereas the (we can assume) Qur'an is the word of God.









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I honestly don't see radical Islam as any more or less dangerous than say, radical Christianity, or any other religion for that matter.
I expected a more well informed view from you.
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Actually, it's not in the Qur'an. Nowhere in the Qur'an does it mention punishing apostates. Punishment is called for by scholars/clerics who have misinterpreted/twisted the Qur'an.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, dude.

"Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:83:17
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