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Discuss what defines Enhanced Interrogation vs. Torture

'Enhanced interrogation' i.e. what was used in Guantanamo/Abu Ghraib etc. involved torture, so in that sense it's torture used as a means to and end.

Enhanced torture is just the PC term of torture.

It's hard for me to justify either since we don't have any statistics of how many lives were saved as a result of it.

Originally Posted by Nory The majority of muslims are perverts, uneducated, filthy, and are changing Islam into a religion which represents them, amateurs.

There is also no information on how well torture is at extracting information.

To me, torture is highly interesting, because it has been used for thousands of years BUT there is little evidence of it's efficacy.

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This is because it is considered unethical and immoral by most of the world

The fact that it's a practice that matches prostitution in age means there has to be some precedence of its effectiveness.

I worry about using it in today's culture simply because us in the west have such a higher emphasis on the individual. If we allow ourselves to lose sight of that and see each other as simply obstacles as opposed to people, God knows what follows 'enhanced interrogation' on that slippery slope.

Originally Posted by Nory The majority of muslims are perverts, uneducated, filthy, and are changing Islam into a religion which represents them, amateurs.

Torture as a means of gaining a legitimate confession is not very reliable. If you simply want to put the person to death then torture is very effective as a means of execution.

After a certain amount of pain, a person will confess to anything, just to get them to stop. The confessions may or may not be legitimate, there is no way of knowing.

Torture as a means of trial during the medieval era was also extremely different from how it's seen today. Alot of courts were extremely biased and could be bribed very easily. Especially before the Renaissance and during Inquisitions like the Roman, Spanish, and Portuguese inquisitions there was emphasis on survival based on the will of god. ESPECIALLY when dealing with things like Trial by ordeal (Trial by fire, Trial by water, etc.)

As society became more secular then torture became less prominent. There becomes a lot less torture out in public. Public torture didn't officially end until the 20th century in western society, but as time moves forward past the age of enlightenment, public executions become extremely rare.

Wait what. Torture has been used as a form of punishment ever since the existence of law. God ain't got nothing to do with it. People are generally cruel.

Originally Posted by Nory The majority of muslims are perverts, uneducated, filthy, and are changing Islam into a religion which represents them, amateurs.

the Church used god to justify their torture for an overwhelming amount of time, but as people became less entertained by the executions, they ceased to be in public.

Things like Trial by Fire.

The accused would walk across a bed of burning coals and their burns were inspected afterwards (usually a three days after) If the wounds had healed, it was deemed that god had healed the wounds to establish their innocence.

If they didn't heal (most people didn't heal) then they were publicly executed. I can't tell you why the people enjoyed the public executions, but they did. Most likely because humans are very sadistic.