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Old 31-01-12, 05:57 PM   #61
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It's the people behind the guns who kill.
Actually, it's the bullet. lol

Bullets should be illegal. And one can have an empty gun to scare away the foes.
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Old 31-01-12, 10:17 PM   #62
 
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Actually, it's the bullet. lol

Bullets should be illegal. And one can have an empty gun to scare away the foes.
yeah, they'll definitely be scared when they find out that bullets are illegal.




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Old 31-01-12, 10:22 PM   #63
 
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I've heard that whole argument that things would be complete anarchy if people weren't allowed to have guns, but it's retarded. For every person that's saved themselves from a crime through the use of a gun, there's more crimes that would not have been possible to commit without guns.

I think in rural places people should be allowed to have them, only because people can defend themselves in a place where it takes longer for help to arrive. In cities, however, I think people should be punished for possessing guns. I live in the area of the murder capital of the USA, and I've been around the worst neighborhoods a lot, and if all the cops had guns and all the criminals wouldn't want to risk having them, the tables would be turned quite a bit.
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Old 01-02-12, 02:35 AM   #64
 
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Are you for it or against it?

My view: Guns are for one thing only and that is to kill. They should be illegal everywhere with no circumstances.
Meh, not only.
Also for threatening, robbery and so forth .

But yeah, they dont have any good purpose so im against legalization of guns.
It could be legalized for protection but very few which are trackable, and maybe specially made for people, not like AKs and M16s or a double-barrell

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One: For the issue of tazers, there's not one recorded death by tazer. There's people who have died because they were tazered and fallen or something like that, but no deaths from the actual tazer. Only things that have been done after they were tazed. Well, as far as police officer use that is. I can't speak for what citizens have done.
What you mean the tazer didnt kill the person?
So if i push someone, and they fall, its not my fault, its theirs because they are weak and have shitty balance?
Without the tazer they wouldnt have died. So the cop killed the guy with a tazer.

While using the tazer, there is a chance a person falls and hits his head, a death caused by a tazer, am i wrong?

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Old 01-02-12, 03:19 AM   #65
 
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What you mean the tazer didnt kill the person?
So if i push someone, and they fall, its not my fault, its theirs because they are weak and have shitty balance?
Without the tazer they wouldnt have died. So the cop killed the guy with a tazer.

While using the tazer, there is a chance a person falls and hits his head, a death caused by a tazer, am i wrong?
If while a police officer is after someone and that person poses a threat to them, say holds a knife and says "I'm not coming a live", that is an instant threat to that police officer (realistically this person would be shot, but for our purposes let's go wit ha tazer). If that man starts coming at the officer with a knife, the officer then proceeds to taze this person and they fall and hit a rock, how is it undoubtedly the officer's fault or because of the tazer itself? If this person is next to a car and they happen to fall toward the car, how is it death by tazer? Police officers are trained not to use their tazer in situations that will obviously harm a person, like if they're next to a cliff or jumping a fence. Police officers are very aware of what tazers do to people (in order to carry one they must be tazed themselves) so they try to make sure they don't use it where the person will surely die or seriously injure themselves.

But if in your scenario, a person falls and hits their head after being tazed then dies, the death is not caused by the tazer. Death is caused by whatever they hit. When I say no one has died from being tazed, I mean by the tazer itself. A bullet from a gun can kill you, the prongs from a tazer and the electricity going through your body that stiffens your muscles will not.
So yes, you are wrong.
And that's not your fault, a lot of people are under the misconception that tazers kill people. I just happen to take police classes and am slightly trained in how to use one and I'm even going to be tazed sometime in the next few months with the police, so I have a little bit more knowledge.




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Old 01-02-12, 04:13 AM   #66
 
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I wrote like a 20 page post but i realized is so long and there is no point in arguing so im going to partially agree.
Since tazers are not made especially to kill people, like guns, they are good to use for self-defence.

But a tazer can still cause a death, self defence or not
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I wrote like a 20 page post but i realized is so long and there is no point in arguing so im going to partially agree.
Since tazers are not made especially to kill people, like guns, they are good to use for self-defence.

But a tazer can still cause a death, self defence or not
Soo....you're not going to back up your thoughts at all? That's the point of a debate. But I do feel the need to just say this, tazers are not made to kill people at all. When you say especially it makes me feel like you're saying they're made with the option that they might be used to kill at some point.
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Old 01-02-12, 04:22 PM   #68
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yeah, they'll definitely be scared when they find out that bullets are illegal.
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