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Old 22-02-12, 09:24 AM   #11
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so?! people should be banned from their religion because other people are scared? and how people don't teach their children? that's freaking ridiculous. Just get used to it.

Like omg the world is a scary and ugly place, people need to realize that and stop trying to ban anything that "harms" us.
No, that's not ridiculous! If one country is scared of your religion then you're the one that should have to change, not the country YOU have moved to. If I moved to China and they didn't like me wearing purple shoes, I wouldn't wear purple shoes out of respect! If it was my religion I'd go elsewhere...
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Old 22-02-12, 09:25 AM   #12
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The first amendment in the American Constitution is Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Therefor they can't do that unless they use the
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Old 22-02-12, 09:30 AM   #13
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No, that's not ridiculous! If one country is scared of your religion then you're the one that should have to change, not the country YOU have moved to. If I moved to China and they didn't like me wearing purple shoes, I wouldn't wear purple shoes out of respect! If it was my religion I'd go elsewhere...
Just because you're from somewhere doesn't mean you own that place. We're small on this earth. We have no right to the land, we're just part of it. Just like animals, just like the land and the oceans. We're part of it. We don't own it. And we don't and shouldn't have say over silly things like being scared. We're intelligent and we should try to make it the best for everyone, but to ban something because you're scared of it and you're too scared to teach your children about other religions and cultures is ridiculous. They're people just like us. And that is what I will teach my children. People are different, they look different, talk difference, believe different, but we're the same. and we should all be able to believe in what we want to.









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Old 22-02-12, 09:36 AM   #14
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Just because you're from somewhere doesn't mean you own that place. We're small on this earth. We have no right to the land, we're just part of it. Just like animals, just like the land and the oceans. We're part of it.
Yes, this is true, and this is something I really believe in. However, this is not the way things are. The world isn't how it should be. And ok, say there aren't any countries then. No borders, everywhere is free. There's one place where most people won't accept you and some will feel scared, and then there's another place where you fit right in. Where will you go? Depends if you think about yourself or others, of course. London is very multi-cultural and a lot of people are welcome, but the rest of the UK is not used to seeing these people hiding their faces and so they shouldn't have to. Why should they have to change for other people?

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We're intelligent and we should try to make it the best for everyone, but to ban something because you're scared of it and you're too scared to teach your children about other religions and cultures is ridiculous. They're people just like us. And that is what I will teach my children. People are different, they look different, talk difference, believe different, but we're the same. and we should all be able to believe in what we want to.
There's some places that allow beating of children, do you think we should stay out of it because we're not from there? and that's what they want to do? should we respect that..? No.
If a government feels something is a threat to their country then they should (well, the do) have the right to ban it and I'll be there supporting them for trying to support me.

I wouldn't think we should change their culture or force them to accept how we dress, but I think we should try to stop them beatin' children.
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No, that's not ridiculous! If one country is scared of your religion then you're the one that should have to change, not the country YOU have moved to. If I moved to China and they didn't like me wearing purple shoes, I wouldn't wear purple shoes out of respect! If it was my religion I'd go elsewhere...
This happens because some group of people acted crappy and so the rest of them should suffer too?
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No, that's not ridiculous! If one country is scared of your religion then you're the one that should have to change, not the country YOU have moved to. If I moved to China and they didn't like me wearing purple shoes, I wouldn't wear purple shoes out of respect! If it was my religion I'd go elsewhere...
I agree with this.
Look at it this way, people(women especially) who travel to places like Afghanistan are required to dress in the country's traditional garb out of respect to the country's culture and religion and because NOT wearing the burqua while you visit there can be a threat to personal safety and punishment.


Do you necessarily share their culture and religion? No. However you respect their culture and religion enough to do so. As a woman, you also won't be driving a vehicle. A male will be driving and you will be sitting in the back by law.

So why when they come to our country must we as a country conform to them as an individual?
Yes, we have freedom of religion here, but we also have the right to feel comfortable and safe where we live.
IMO, they should be free to practice their religion within reason, however I think burquas and other face coverings should be removed for things like school,security/border crossings, employment purposes if need be,drivers licenses/photo ID, Hospitals,court rooms,interrogation rooms/police stations etc and should be required to lift them for law enforcement as directed.

Lastly, they can cause or worsen medical conditions. They contribute to a predisposition for vitamin D Deficiency, which can lead to rickets or osteoporosis and may increase the risk of seizures in infants born to affected mothers.
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Old 22-02-12, 11:14 AM   #17
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As much as we want to, we can't ban the things that we don't like, or the things that make us uncomfortable. Baggy pants, burqas. You can't legislate the shirt on my back and I can't legislate the clothes you wear to church. In fact I can't legislate if you go to church at all. The founders of America set up a country where people can live with a relative sense of uniqueness. Where we can wear pajamas at noon and baggy pants to the mall. It might be stupid, but saying that it should be illegal because you don't like it is equally stupid and childish
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Old 22-02-12, 11:16 AM   #18
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As much as we want to, we can't ban the things that we don't like, or the things that make us uncomfortable. Baggy pants, burqas. You can't legislate the shirt on my back and I can't legislate the clothes you wear to church. In fact I can't legislate if you go to church at all. The founders of America set up a country where people can live with a relative sense of uniqueness. Where we can wear pajamas at noon and baggy pants to the mall. It might be stupid, but saying that it should be illegal because you don't like it is equally stupid and childish
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We may adopt different things to respect other cultures, but since when was the burqa disrespecting our culture when it even complies with the law?

Someone said something about feeling scared, yeah but I feel intimidated and uneasy about youths in hoodies, does that mean we ban hoodies? Even though statistically speaking, a women in a burqa is a much lighter threat than a group of teens in hoodies.

Finally, most women in burqas don't even object to showing their faces when entering banks and such, so what's the problem? It's like people just need new things to complain about.
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We may adopt different things to respect other cultures, but since when was the burqa disrespecting our culture when it even complies with the law?

Someone said something about feeling scared, yeah but I feel intimidated and uneasy about youths in hoodies, does that mean we ban hoodies? Even though statistically speaking, a women in a burqa is a much lighter threat than a group of teens in hoodies.

Finally, most women in burqas don't even object to showing their faces when entering banks and such, so what's the problem? It's like people just need new things to complain about.
I grew up around the city of Toronto.
I encountered many, MANY Muslims and only one that I can recall was willing to show her face without a huge hassle.
Also, the majority of Muslim women I met/saw were accompanied by husbands/sons/other male family members who did all transactions and such so that the women were not asked to show their faces.

It's not that I have a problem with Burquas or the religion itself, I just think there are times and places that they are inappropriate to wear and it is understandable for them to be required to be removed in those places.









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