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Old 07-10-08, 02:25 PM   #1
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BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - A woman angry with her 12-year-old daughter for having sex forced the girl to drink bleach and sat on her until the child died, a police detective said. The girl's 9-year-old brother was forced to watch the attack, Detective Warren Cotton testified Thursday in a preliminary hearing for Tunisia Archie, 31.

Cotton said Archie... told authorities she was disturbed because ``her daughter told her that she was no longer a virgin.''

She said she poured bleach into Jasmine's mouth and the child vomited, he said, then sat on her until she stopped breathing, Cotton testified.

Archie forced Jasmine's 9-year-old brother Jacorey to watch the attack and ``told him that if he shed a tear that she was going to kill him, too,'' Cotton testified.

It's incredibly hard to comment on a story like this succinctly: it's hard to comment on it at all, because it's just so terrible and tragic.

One of the toughest parts about this is that we know from users at Scarleteen that what Jasmine's mother thought virginity was and what Jasmine did may have been two completely different things. For all we know, Archie masturbated and decided that meant she wasn't a virgin anymore: for all we know, she was raped. Whether or not she actually had any sort of consensual partnered sex, we'll likely never know.

It's possible Jasmine's mother is not a sane person, and it's possible she was an abusive parent already. But it's also possible neither of these things is so, and while something like this isn't at all common, people getting or feeling or behaving very out of control about ideas of virginity and chastity, about teenage sexuality in general is not, sadly, uncommon. There is a long, long history of some heinous atrocities around notions of virginity, and a far longer list of less awful, but still violent and/or abusive aproaches to virginity, to teen sexuality and development, to women's sexuality. As we've said in other places before, in many ways, most ideas about virginity are rooted in gross sexual oppression, in viewing women and their bodies as property, in all kinds of things which are in no way lovely, spiritual nor empowering.

Again, this is obviously an incredibly sad and extreme case, but for the sake of young women like Jasmine, we'd be doing everyone a service by thinking long and hard about the sexual ideals and ideas we espouse and applaud, the many ways in which they have been applied and might be applied still, and how we might all be served by changing the way we look at things and what we subscribe to. It's the very least we can do.


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There are some sick people out there. That is just horrible!
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Oh my gosh, thats awful! I can't believe a mother would do that. Thats one of the most painful ways anyone could die, thats sick!!
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): It's sad when parent's kill their children.
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Poor poor girl. Not only the girl but her brother too! Forced to watch the whole thing - that's one of the worst kinds of torture there is.

Shouldn't this go in the news section?









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Poor poor girl. Not only the girl but her brother too! Forced to watch the whole thing - that's one of the worst kinds of torture there is.

Shouldn't this go in the news section?
I really bad for the brother, I wonder if he has nightmares from watching it, I would ): They didn't mention it in the aritcle but they burried with out a tombstone, I wonder why?
It could, But it's more of a teenage article than news type thing.
I got out of a magazine I guess it could go in either or.

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I really bad for the brother, I wonder if he has nightmares from watching it, I would ): They didn't mention it in the aritcle but they burried with out a tombstone, I wonder why?
It could, But it's more of a teenage article than news type thing.
I got out of a magazine I guess it could go in either or.
Just a guess but I think they did that because of Grave-robbers.
IDK, I just heard once that they target young girls graves and they find out about them how? The news and what-not. Grave-robbers are creepy... Ewww!

Also sometimes people hang around the grave-sites of news-related victims.
Some people just don't like that.

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Just a guess but I think they did that because of Grave-robbers.
IDK, I just heard once that they target young girls graves and they find out about them how? The news and what-not. Grave-robbers are creepy... Ewww!

Also sometimes people hang around the grave-sites of news-related victims.
Some people just don't like that.

Other than those reasons - no clue!


Maybe, ewww that's really disturbing. They are creepy we had some down here in Virginia I would be a very pissed death body if someone messed with me while I was trying to rest in peace.. I hate graveyards.
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That is so awful I cant believe people treat their own kids like this sick bastards
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Tombstones dont usually get put up until a few months after I think. Well over here anyway.
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