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Old 20-06-11, 03:11 PM   #1
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I just got back from lunch with my boyfriend. He told me his uncle just got married over the weekend which was a complete surprise to me because he already has a wife.
At first I was really confused at which uncle he was talking about. Then I thought he was just in "love" with two women and decided to marry his mistress or whatever.
This uncle is married and has been married for a very long time (At least 18 years). He lives with his wife and four kids of 18yrs, 16yrs, 2yrs, and a ONE MONTH OLD. Yes, his wife literally just gave birth.

After being really confused about why he got married he told me it was a white, U.S. citizen. His uncle, wife, and two kids are unauthorized immigrants.

It's a fraud marriage, which pisses me off. Not only that, but now he has TWO wives which makes it even more ethically and morally wrong. And the second wife is living with his family.

I'll mention that I have no problem with unauthorized immigrants unless they're committing criminal acts or some stupid sh*t like this.
If an immigrant wants to get married and apply for citizenship because they love that person then fine, but this I cannot tolerate. Marriage is something to take seriously and they're making a joke out of it.

My boyfriend went on to mention that his cousin (the same uncle's son) is planning to get married to his girlfriend this fall so that he can apply for citizenship. Not only did the just turn 18 and graduate from high school, but my personal opinion is they aren't nearly ready for marriage. They don't even have jobs, income, or a place of their own. He wants to get married so he can qualify for financial aid at college (yay, more fraud).

Obviously having two wives is illegal, I'm just wondering how they managed it. Maybe since he married his first wife in another country they have no record of it here in the U.S.
Even still, I can't imagine once he actually tries applying for citizenship that the government won't somehow find out he already has a wife and family. I kind of feel bad for thinking this because it could tear his family apart, but I really hope he gets in trouble for this. (maybe part of that stems from my boyfriends extended family not treating him well at all). Plus he's overly cocky about it. He thinks he and his son will become citizens in a couple months when it reality it takes at least a year to gain residency and a minimum of two years after that THEN you can try applying for citizenship.

They got this idea from my boyfriend and I. We didn't know if we could legally get married (which is something we've wanted to do for a couple of years, we've been together for over 4 years) so a few months ago we talked to a lawyer. They said we could and appearantly it's really easy to get married even if you aren't a legal resident. They then told us if we did he had a very good chance of applying for residency/citizenship (which was something I didn't even know we could do). I wouldn't marry him just so he can have a legal status. We've loved each other for a long time and I've actually decided to hold off on getting married (thanks to many of your insights here on Teen Forumz) until he takes on some more responsibility and matures a little more.
Anyway, my boyfriend's parents appearantly told this to his extended family and now they think they will try it.

It's obvious to me that his uncle hasn't spoken to a lawyer which makes me more hopeful this will fall apart in his face.
I just don't think it's right. It actually disgusts me.

Should I just let it be or should I say something to someone?


HAHA. omg. something else I just realized. His uncle & family just kicked out their father (my boyfriend's grandfather) and now he's living at my boyfriend's parent's house. They appearently got in a fight, I bet this is what it was over. I guess they just wanted the extra room for this woman.
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I'll mention that I have no problem with unauthorized immigrants unless they're committing criminal acts or some stupid sh*t like this.
Being unauthorized is a criminal act.

Well, they already broke one law. If you can get away with it then they'll just keep breaking them.
That being said, if you want to be a citizen then you need to become one legally. And by the way, you can take a free qualifications test online and apply just as easy. The same goes for the 18 year old, all you have to do is apply and pass a fucking test. Hell, sometimes (so I hear) you don't even have to take a test. And really, I have heard that even if you are illegal that if you are in the country for a certain length of time that you can become eligible to take the test. On that though the test is easy, 92% of people pass it on the first try.
Or apply for a VISA. I'm not sure about this case exactly but there's always the option to contact a lawyer about what to do.

However, illegal is illegal. Being unauthorized and not in the country legally is, you know, illegal.

What I want to know is why either of his two wives agreed to all of this in the first place.
Obviously if they're all living together then each of them knew what was going on so why?









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Wait, your uncle's first wife is totally okay with this...? after she just had his kid?








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Old 20-06-11, 10:57 PM   #4
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I've always heard being in the country illegally was a civil offense by itself. I realize it's still illegal and wrong. Maybe I should have rephrased that to say, "unless they're murderers, drug dealers, harming people, etc."

I have no idea why his wife would be okay with this or what was in it for the second wife. I can see this being a complete disaster with this other women trying to take his house and everything away. I don't think they thought this through and they probably don't realize how long it would take him to gain legal status (if it goes through).

I didn't know there was a test you can take to achieve legal status. That sounds really fishy to me...but if thats true I guess thats good. If you've entered illegally after a certain year (I want to say sometime in the 90's) unless you want to go back to your country and be barred for a minimum of one year (or ten) you pretty much have to get married.

So that's probably the easiest way to get around the laws but it really pisses me off when it's done dishonestly. I just can't believe he did that. That's stupid on so many levels.
He's pressuring his son to marry his girlfriend because it means he will be legal before my boyfriend which will make him and his son "better". Marriage is not a contest and they're acting like because we want to get married for the right reasons instead of doing it as fast as possible we're not as good as them. *rolls eyes*
Now I understand why my boyfriend doesn't get along with them.
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Old 21-06-11, 09:35 PM   #5
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I have a question. Do you think I am overreacting or would this upset you too? - about the entire situation (immigration wise and what I'm about to explain).

After seeing pictures of their wedding (over the weekend) on my mil's phone I found out why she was so willing to marry him. She is the military (not sure what branch, could be national guard) and she just wanted the extra benefits that came with being married.
If them military found out about it would it be a big deal for them? What exactly is the law on sham marriages in the army? And it's pretty obvious it's a sham since he has two wives. if it matters, hes around 40, she's 23.
They're also (from what I was told) not living together, so she's probably taking all the extra money.

I really wish I could put this out of my mind and you all are probably sick of reading about this, but I don't know if I have a duty to say something?
The only thing with that is if something did happen and his extended family found out I was to blame they would hate me (which I honestly wouldn't care) but in turn also hate my boyfriend and possibly his family, even though it was their fault for trying to defraud the united states in more way than one.

So what would you do? Just try to ignore it or say something?
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