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Old 17-07-09, 04:58 PM   #1
 
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Smallsmileys223 God hates Gays? [rant]

I want to apologize if this has already been brought up...


I don't believe in labels, so I wont call myself bisexual, but for all intensive purposes I am, and everyone who knows who I am knows that about me. I flaunt it, not hide it. I consider myself a Christian, I believe in God, I read the Bible, I pray, I've been saved. I was having lunch at the mall with some friends and one of them told me that I can't be a 'real' Christian because I'm gay and God doesn't like gays. This pissed me off, who are we to say what God like and what he doesn't like. I didn't chose to feel this way, I always have, who are we to say God didn't intend for me to feel this way, after all God makes no mistakes.
I know we are the voice of God, but since when are we God's own opinions?
You know what God really doesn't like? Judging people.

Matthew 7:1-5

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
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I know alot of chrisians that are gay, theres even churches just for gay christians.. Don't listen to asses who say God hates gays.. We aren't suppose to judge anyone as it says, because Gods the one that will judge us at the end of the day. Its not up to us to descide whats right from wrong, its up to God. Thats from a christian point of view. I'm not really that religous anymore..
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Old 18-07-09, 03:54 PM   #3
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What the Bible says about Homosexuality

The Bible clearly states in both the Old and New Testaments that homosexual behaviour and lust in general are sin


Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26-27

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Note: Lust does not indicate a simple sexual desire or thought; simple passing desire is temptation. Lust is equated with lechery, the unrestrained indulgence of sexual desire, mentally or physically.

The Bible equates homosexuality with murder and kidnapping:

1 Timothy 1:9-10

Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

The Word also says that such people will not inherit the Kingdom of God (heaven):

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

But indicates that turning away from all of these sins is possible through Christ and results in forgiveness:

1 Corinthians 6:11

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our father
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Just what I found, as you said god does not judge people, well he seems to not like gay people and sees it as being a sin according to the bible.

I have nothing wrong with people being bi etc but I just thought I would point out that god has judged gay people and he doesn't see them as being righteous in his eyes.
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Default Re: God hates Gays? [rant]

believer of each religion likes to quote from their holy books.but these are interpreted at will. I don't think, that God hates homosexual people, cause he created them. He really would rather like to check how we handle people, who don't love and live like the most folk of mankind. I think we disappoint him always more every day.








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believer of each religion likes to quote from their holy books.but these are interpreted at will. I don't think, that God hates homosexual people, cause he created them. He really would rather like to check how we handle people, who don't love and live like the most folk of mankind. I think we disappoint him always more every day.
How did he create homosexual people? Just because he created people does not mean he made them what they are or can be blamed for it. He made humans perfect to start off with. Where men and women were a couple and then us humans started sinning and us ourselves turned in to gay/bi/lesbians. You can't blame him for our actions.
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Yeah, if you wanna blame anyone... blame Eve.

I think it's more the act of homosexuality than anything.









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How did he create homosexual people? Just because he created people does not mean he made them what they are or can be blamed for it. He made humans perfect to start off with. Where men and women were a couple and then us humans started sinning and us ourselves turned in to gay/bi/lesbians. You can't blame him for our actions.
other Question: Why shouldn't God not created them for that reason I posted above?

Since we don't know, what God is or what God wants, it is almost possible that God probably have made up this with the homosexuality - no matter why. I strongly believe that God has kinda special sense of humor.

btw ... - it was only a case in point, that should show up, that it don't matter which sexuality sumone lives, as long as nobody gets hurt or so ...- and, they (he/she/it ...) feels well, living their own sexuality on that occasion.








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God did not create people to be homosexual. But rather it was the sin that engulfed man kind when Eve took that fateful bite from the apple.

Look, God doesn't 'hate' homosexual people. For you are correct, they are people, and his creation.

However, there is this thing called 'sin'. And the Bible which is inspired by God, is clear on the subject of homosexuality - it is a sin.

But God is also clear that no sin is greater then the other, for all sin is the same in the eyes of God.

You cannot truly be at peace with the Lord if you continually indulge in sin and do not seek repentence. And just because you seek repentence doesn't mean you can keep on doing it.









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I never said that God hates gay people.
And there is no something like sin.
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Default Re: God hates Gays? [rant]

God hating would be a complete paradox to the nature of a God in general.

I can't believe people actually believe in God despite the contradictions to the nature of what was made up initially.

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