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Old 14-08-09, 09:42 AM   #1
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Dear President Obama,
I am in complete awe of the reaction you got trying to reform the US health system. People called the NHS "An evil an corrupt system". How? Free health care for a whole nation! What's so wrong with that?!?

The NHS is something we are truly proud of in the UK. It was the greatest reform given to us, and Labour have harnessed it well. Even the conservatives are now proud of it. A great improvement from the Maggie Thatcher days!

Don't throw malicious comments at our nation or its systems. At the end of the day Obama has the right idea. All from the poor unemployed to the multi-millionaires get the same treatment, a good one. Is that not ideal?
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Old 14-08-09, 09:55 AM   #2
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uh oh i see a major debate sparking! Lol

but i totally agree.. see my sig xD
i understand the NHS has flaws and lots of them! but at least it understands that healthcare is a human right that everyone should recive...








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Old 14-08-09, 10:24 AM   #3
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Because people should choose who they want to provide their health care.
PLUS in the Federalist Papers it basically says "whatever isn't here is up to the states".
If STATES wanna have it, I don't give a shit.
If my state got it then I can always move.









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Old 14-08-09, 11:58 AM   #4
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what you don't understand is the states is full of big insurance brokers and health companies who care about nothing more than filling up their pockets with money. What about those who cannot afford healthcare? do you not agree it is selfish to deprive those people of a health system?
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Default Re: Don't Diss The NHS!

in the UK there is the NHS, which is pretty good, i've been through it and they were brilliant. There is also private healthcare. why not just do the same? That way you can still choose who you want to provide your healthcare.
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Old 14-08-09, 12:47 PM   #6
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exactly my thoughts (:

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It's a matter of coverage.
Companies offer coverage, if there was a public option then companies would no longer see a point in covering their workers.
And you see, since we all will basically be paying for it one way or another, unless you make loads of money, you won't get your private health care plus if you make loads of money you won't qualify for public health care. Also, eventually there won't be a private option left because everyone will be too broke to get private coverage.

Again, I don't care if individual states want to do it, I just don't wanna pay for it.

There are also things called free clinics. Where anyone can go to.
Why? Because people volunteer there w/o pay and people donate to the clinics.
That's fine, so long as I don't have to pay for it.

I just don't think it should be done on a national level.

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do you not agree it is selfish to deprive those people of a health system?
That's why I'm against it. I know people who live in the UK who have been denied health care. They're old, by the way. Now, that is selfish.


It infringes on the rights that were given to us, it does not say that the Gov't should control my health care.
What's gonna be the deciding factor then if I need a heart transplant? "Oh, no, she has too many medical problems for us to waste a perfectly good heart on her".
How I know this? My cousins deceased GF needed one and she died before they could get her on a plane, to the US, to get a transplant.









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Old 14-08-09, 01:04 PM   #8
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Default Re: Don't Diss The NHS!

at the end of the day, if you are that desperate you can go private.
we have private clinics in the UK

the difference is those people who need a heart transplant may not be able to afford it. so at least on the NHS they get a fighting chance, even if they don't make it. If they can afford it they will just go private.

no-one loses out, besides the stuck up pompous money grabbing wretches at the top of the ladder. the ones that live a lifestyle that insults the likes of our families' existences. and what do they lose, couple of quid in tax?
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Old 14-08-09, 01:55 PM   #9
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Anyone else agree?
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I think the NHS is a great system, certainly not the best but definitely not the worst. Having free healthcare available to everyone is great, especially NHS walk in hospitals who will see to you there and then without an appointment.

Everyone who pays tax makes a contribution towards it and theyre able to get the care too, if some day they no longer pay tax at least they wont be left for dead unlike in other countries where you are forced to pay for healthcare otherwise youre more or less screwed.

Im not 100% sure if those on high incomes need to pay the NHS for healthcare but im pretty sure they dont and theyre entitled to it too.
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