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Its an online society.
You ask what has happened? Well things change, for the better or the worse. Its good you see that the forumz have changed. But it takes time and different ideas to be beaten into our subconsciousness to change the people themselves.
I think the best thing for people to do is read this and just recognize it when we see it and say something about it. Im sure no one means to be like this and mess up the forumz. So other members that aren't so caught up in the deal should step in and at least mention it.
A little tap on the shoulder and such. I dont think mods need to start cracking down any more than the average person.
Forgive the crappy grammar!
"The more man meditates upon good thoughts, the better will be his world and the world at large. " - Confucius "The guy in the back always has something to say"
Well, yeah. I mean, the mods can't be like "Poof! It's all fixed, have a nice day."
It's our job to fix it. But if people don't even see the problem, they can't fix it. Maybe they don't want to see the problem, or maybe they simply don't think there's a problem.
When I joined TH, I thought it was a place where you could go to talk about life, growing up, personal issues, what kind of stuff you like, your views, etc. and make new friends. But the TH that I see is just like high school. Small groups that get along, but lots of vicious bickering and drama. And you know, maybe people are used to that, and it's just a normal and accepted part of everyday life for them. Some people even like a bit of drama. It gives them a chance to vent and let out their frustration, and they get to be completely honest without holding back or having to worry about censoring themselves. But not everyone likes that. And if people would just take a minute to think about how their actions affect the rest of the forum and tone it down, maybe things would be a bit calmer around here. If people don't want it to be calm, however, then trying to make peace here is just a waste of time.
Hey, I agree. And you get my point. People need to want to change. It just doesn't happen magically.
"A toothache, or a violent passion, is not necessarily diminished by our knowledge of its causes, its character, its importance or insignificance".- T.S. Eliot
I hope I haven't implied that I think the mods need to start cracking down and acting like Nazis. Because that would probably make things worse. It's like when two siblings are fighting and their mom yells at them and puts them in time out. It doesn't make the kids any less angry, and they're still going to be upset with each other. And usually, a mod does come along and close the fight threads. I just wish something could be done to stop them from happening in the first place.
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"There's no Hitler and no Holocaust, no winter and no Santa Claus
In part when things start getting out of control is when people start using hot button terms which target the person making the statement rather than the statement.
"Only morons think like that"
Statements like that will provoke others.
The flip side... a few are too sensitive and feel any disagreement with their views is a perceived as a personal attack; no matter how respectful others try to be while disagreeing.
A: "I think Toyoda makes the best cars in the world, nobody comes close"
B: "I disagree, Toyoda makes good cars, but I prefer Honda over Toyoda"
A: "Screw you and everyone who drives Hondas, Hondas suck"
^ Omg, exactly. I mean, not all of the fights start because someone is being rude. A lot of them do, but some of it is people overreacting to non-offensive posts and putting words in other people's mouths.
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"There's no Hitler and no Holocaust, no winter and no Santa Claus
Well, I've been negged when posting my opinions on something so, I've stopped discussing. People are too childish to accept that others have their own opinion.
I've had a few arguments lately myself, and I'm sorry for that.
I'm glad you're not affraid to stand up, even when you know a 'torch' will be entering your 'ass' for it
Because reality.
People fight, certain types of people just do not mesh well together. People get petty, some more than others.
The best we can do it attempt to tolerate each other. But most of us are teenagers and the reality is that people fight. It's not going to stop ever, it just won't. So at best you can ask for tolerance. Some people will, some people won't.
Each individual needs to take it upon themselves to change if they so desire it.
Honestly speaking, having been here since this place came up... not all that much has changed.
There are active and nice periods and there are inactive and not so nice periods.
Believe me, I've been through them all. Most of the people I've had problems with and attacked others have gone.
That just means more come in. Nothing has changed really except the ones doing it.
Shout, Shout, Let it all Out, These are the Things I Can do Without You Shouldn't Have to Jump for Joy, You Shouldn't Have to Shout for Joy
They Give You Life and in Return You Gave 'em Hell As Cold as Ice - No Bitch, You're Ice Ice Baby I Hope We Live to Tell the Tale, I Hope We Live to Shout the Tale
Will You Never Shout? And When You've Taken Down Your Guard... If I Could Change Your Mind, I'd Really Love to Break Your Heart! Come On Let Me Shout Shout Let Me, Come On Let Me Shout Shout!
Because reality.
People fight, certain types of people just do not mesh well together. People get petty, some more than others.
The best we can do it attempt to tolerate each other. But most of us are teenagers and the reality is that people fight. It's not going to stop ever, it just won't. So at best you can ask for tolerance. Some people will, some people won't.
Each individual needs to take it upon themselves to change if they so desire it.
Honestly speaking, having been here since this place came up... not all that much has changed.
There are active and nice periods and there are inactive and not so nice periods.
Believe me, I've been through them all. Most of the people I've had problems with and attacked others have gone.
That just means more come in. Nothing has changed really except the ones doing it.
This.
Every forum community has people with different opinions, different backgrounds, and different perspectives usually conflict with each other to get their point across.
People usually take things too personally. I try to overlook some of that and look at the positive side and move on.
^ I agree with both of you, to some degree. Change is normal thing, happens everywhere, for better or worse, and it can't really be avoided. Maybe I got a little worked up when I posted this because it happens at pretty much every single forum I've ever been to. It's just really sad, and I don't think all of the drama is necessary. I've made so many friends online before, only to watch them leave because things fell apart. And it usually starts like this, with unnecessary fights. And I think that as much as some of us would like to believe that we're like family here, we're not. We're a long way from a family. Families stick together and learn to deal with each other. They might bicker occasionally, but they make up for it and learn to let go of their grudges. I haven't been around long enough to see everything that's happened, and people will probably cool down after a little while. But then, maybe they won't. At this rate I'm not really sure what to expect.
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"There's no Hitler and no Holocaust, no winter and no Santa Claus
^ I agree with both of you, to some degree. Change is normal thing, happens everywhere, for better or worse, and it can't really be avoided. Maybe I got a little worked up when I posted this because it happens at pretty much every single forum I've ever been to. It's just really sad, and I don't think all of the drama is necessary. I've made so many friends online before, only to watch them leave because things fell apart. And it usually starts like this, with unnecessary fights. And I think that as much as some of us would like to believe that we're like family here, we're not. We're a long way from a family. Families stick together and learn to deal with each other. They might bicker occasionally, but they make up for it and learn to let go of their grudges. I haven't been around long enough to see everything that's happened, and people will probably cool down after a little while. But then, maybe they won't. At this rate I'm not really sure what to expect.
OK, maybe we're not a family. We're a community. I can't stand some of my neighbors, just like some people on Teen Forumz bother me and I'm sure I bother some of them. We're not perfect. We're human. All thats missing is civic virtue. Communities evolve, people move, people get arrested for dealing drugs and are arrested- except here its known as banning. People come and go- as do grudges.
"A toothache, or a violent passion, is not necessarily diminished by our knowledge of its causes, its character, its importance or insignificance".- T.S. Eliot
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