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Old 16-08-11, 04:01 PM   #1
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If you haven't guessed it, you don't know me very well.

Okay, first things first. I am a sub. Within the BDSM context, I am a submissive.
Second of all, look at how I type. I always capitalize "I" and any name I'm using. I don't purposely use lower-case "I" ever. Esp. when referring to myself.
What does this mean? Well in the BDSM world, subs will often use lower cases when talking about themselves and upper cases when referring to their Master. Even I use an upper case "M" for Master. It gives it importance. Using lower cases shows a submissive status.
Also using "this girl" or "His pet" or "my Masters girl" or anything of that nature shows submission by showing you willingly belong to someone else.

Please note, I do not do this. I capitalize Master to show it's an important status to me. To show that I will have the utmost respect (despite my bratty nature) for my future Master.

Now, onto the meat of this rant. How is the above relevant? Well some assholes out there like to accuse people like me of not being a "true sub" or "true slave".
Accusing me of the latter would be accurate in more ways than one. No matter what terms you use for you relationship... fact of the matter is, you're not really a slave. You entered into a contract willingly, so you're not technically a slave. You can act like a slave, but it's still something you want and it wasn't forced upon you.

It's also accurate as i am not a slave. I am a submissive servant. Each couple or group or individual decides for themselves what the definition of a submissive, slave, pet and servant are. The same can be said for Dominant, Master, Daddy/Mommy, and Mistress are.

It's a matter of an opinion and there simply is no hard rule. Esp. when it comes to being in a Dominant position. It depends on opinion. It's a sliding scale, that's all there is to it.
For example, you could be the best Alpha Male around but treat me like a fucking cum dump and you're nothing more than a slime ball to me and I'll see you as a lesser being rather than a being worthy of my submission.
Meanwhile, hey others might be into getting treated like a cum dump and may see that guy as a fucking god on Earth.

It depends. What pisses me off, so fucking much, is when people say I'm not a real sub.

Wanna know something? Fuck you you limp dick little bastards! Don't get you're undies in a twist because I don't swoon at the site of your obviously fake porn-cock.

Subs have free will, wants, desires, rules, likes, and dislikes just like everyone else has. You saying we have no rights is just your excuse to be an abusive bastard and get off on it. Sadly, that's the downside to BDSM, you'll sometimes get people who want nothing more than to abuse others and get off on it - not realizing that that isn't how it works. Abuse to a sub is no different than abuse on a no-sub.

Dumbasses.

Finally, I am a servant. I make the difference between that and a slave and a submissive.
To me, a slave listens to their Master(s) and acts more like a slave by obeying commands. To me, a servant is one who submits to another and then looks out for their best interest, even if that means going against what they want in favor of what they need. A slave exists for their Master whereas a servant exists to help their Master.

Now this is just what I go by. Why? Because I've always been like that. Some say it's the Masters job to protect their submissive/slave/servant. For me, it's the other way around. Or more like it's mutual protection.
In my case it's like once I get attached emotionally to someone, I'd move the Heavens and the Earth for them if that's what it took to make them happy.

A submissive acknowledges the superiority of another. Nothing more really. And in the case of BDSM, most give into that but some want to fight in order to lose (much like myself). They sense the clear superiority in others but insist on seeing how worthy the other is. I've also always been like that. And to this day I've never met a guy who has found a way to prove his superiority over me.
Believe me, if I had then I'd be married by now. Even if that meant using drugs and driving to Las Vegas.


So i really fucking hate it when people think that because I have limits that most consider to be common in the BDSM world that I'm not a "true sub". This can be anything from whips to anal or even just intercourse. By not wanting it I'm demonstrating free will and personal rules and some like to believe this doesn't make me a "true sub". Which is total bullshit. So I'm not into guys who ask me right off the bat if I have a cam and who post their cocks on their profile or otherwise expose themselves for everyone to see.
That just tells me you're not interested in anything serious.

And some guys act like just because I'm a sub that I shouldn't be allowed to refuse their advances. Even when they state the only reason they're interested is because I have a great rack. Which, you know, is true (that I have a great rack) but that's no valid reason to be into me for just that reason. Fair enough if you're attracted to girls with larger boobs but I'm not a slab of meat to be used as your bisexual cum dump (yes, that's relevant - because most of these freaks want more than one girl for obvious reasons).

Just ugh! The nerve of some people!

This is exactly why I don't classify myself as a slave. Slaves get more issues like this from jerks spewing off to them about this shit. I feel for them, I really do. Going around insulting my sisters and brothers like that. And worse, accusing me of being a Dom! I am not a Dom, Domme, Master, Mistress, or anything of the sort (even if I do occasonally refer to myself in a masculine way).
I'm simply not built to be the leader in any sort of relationship. I'm not a leader, I'm not even a follower. But I am most certainly not a leader, an aggressor, or anything or the sort. And how insulting you compare me to anything more masculine than a Tomboy!

I can't begin to describe my frustration. And just for the record, BDSM is much more than a perversion to me. So keep in mind I'm not bitching about perversions, I'm bitching about people who obviously don't know shit about the lifestyle. For me it's about emotional intimacy and trust and relying on someone strong but to also be a supporter and caretaker for that person.
Because that's how I personally believe a woman should be. And I'm sure you'll bitch about that in response. But that's just me and how I am. I wasn't raised to think this way. Not exactly at least.

I get so sick and tired of the misunderstandings.


But in better news, this article shows exactly what I think:
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Old 16-08-11, 04:26 PM   #2
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So, to summarize, this entire rant comes down to the fact that you are hurt/offended that these people do not consider you truly submissive?

Ok, I guess that makes sense. Sorry to hear about your plight.








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Old 16-08-11, 04:40 PM   #3
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^ No... no that's not it at all. I'm not hurt or offended, I'm insulted these people think they have the right to tell me that as a sub that I should have zero rights.
I'm GLAD they don't consider me a "true sub". Ugh! Ugh! If they did I might have to commit suicide and have my body burned if these filthy mongrels considered me a "true sub"!

Did you even read what I said? I'm fucking ecstatic they don't consider me as such. Didn't I say I'm glad I'm not a filthy cum dump?

No, I'm pissed because they think they have the right to insult me for not being a "true sub" in their eyes (read: sub doesn't mean doormat, they think it does) and that they think being a "true sub" is the equivalent of having no rights whatsoever and not being allowed to say no. I don't want to be seen as a "true sub" by anyone, even my future Master, simply because no such thing exists.

The definition is a personal thing, not something people looking to abuse and control others get to decide. I'm not hurt at all they don't consider me a true sub. I'm pissed and insulted they had the fucking nerve to think we deserve no rights or rules for being submissive. And that we should obey every command mindlessly and never say no, ever, even in a life threatening situation. Yeah, really. Basically they define a true sub as being a cum dump doll and would rather you have part of your brain taken out so that you won't talk or resist and you'll be just a doll and nothing more.

So no, ugh, just ugh! Not what you said at all! I need a scrub down for even thinking about what you said.

I'm happy they don't consider me a "true sub". Last thing I want is to get my ass abducted and raped and killed and left in a gutter totally naked. Because people like who I was talking about think that if you're a sub then you should listen to anyone and everyone, no matter what they want. Even if that's to rape and kill you and that you should be fucking happy about it too.

I need to go clean myself for having to explain this to you.

Plight? Actually it's a big fucking deal. That's how a lot of subs end up getting seriously emotionally and sometimes physically hurt. Because of assholes like these. They think we don't deserve free will. So hurt they don't see me as a true sub? Not in the slightest. I'm pissed they think they get to decide what a true sub is and that all subs should all be happy little sex slaves who never get to say no.

So no, no, and more no. As a matter of fact your comment made me physically ill for even daring to insinuate such a thing as I clearly stated that there is not "true sub" and that subs set their own rules and have the right to do so and that these inbred motherfuckers think we shouldn't think at all.


Figures no one else gets it. People don't realize that subs can be sexually harassed and tormented and even threatened with rape and people act like we deserve it, want it, or should just take it for being submissive. It's sexual harassment and the serious kind. It's serious fucking business, no different than getting bullied online.









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Old 16-08-11, 04:43 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=Marionetta;722012

So no, no, and more no. As a matter of fact your comment made me physically ill for even daring to insinuate such a thing as I clearly stated that there is not "true sub" and that subs set their own rules and have the right to do so and that these inbred motherfuckers think we shouldn't think at all.[/QUOTE]

I apologize for not being the most well read on the subject, and rescind my comment. I'm sorry for making you describe that to me.








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Old 16-08-11, 04:51 PM   #5
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It's okay... it's okay... I'm calmer now. Okay, so long as you get it. Since you're not well read on it, it can be forgiven. Most people don't get it anyway.
It's sexual harassment. Which is one reason i don't trust any guy who has a picture of his dick up.

I'm not a plaything. So it pisses me the fuck off when people treat me like I should be a plaything and enjoy it. Which is exactly what guys like that think. No different than when a guy makes crude and sexual remarks to me, outside of BDSM context, that could be considered sexual threats. I get them all the fucking time - things like I'm a bitch who needs to be taught a fucking lesson. Normally I threaten to rip the guys balls off and shove them down his throat and then proceed to vividly describe how I'm going to sadistically torture him - but that doesn't work on the internet with arrogant asses like this.

Anyway, long story short, it's the idea that all subs are meat to be used and thrown away. Like we're good for nothing more than raping and abusing. Like we should enjoy every last fucking thing simple because a Dom likes it. And that we should want to fuck every Dom just because he's a Dom and we're all supposed to be horny perverts.

Like I said, treating us like meat with no free will. It doesn't have to be withing a BDSM context. it happens all the time outside of it.









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Yes, you were sexually harassed but I want you to know that you should've do something right after the harassment happened. I understand your situation, because [Link Removed] is not to tolerate.

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Unlucky for having two off-topic posts in your thread.

I will admit I didn't read the whole thread; just skimmed it, but I think I get the jist. I have to ask - where do you meet/speak to all these idiots?
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Old 22-09-11, 09:40 AM   #8
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Dude, it's the internet, there's not a lot I can do. Had it happened in real life I would have sucker punched them, bashed them on the head with a chair, and then use my amazing hog-tying skills and would have tared and feathered him and plastered him in a public place and put a sign on him saying "PUBLIC TOILET: Feel Free To Use".
And then, I'd take pictures and plaster them all over the internet. But first I'd gouge out his eyes so he couldn't identify me in a line up.

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Unlucky for having two off-topic posts in your thread.

I will admit I didn't read the whole thread; just skimmed it, but I think I get the jist. I have to ask - where do you meet/speak to all these idiots?
I seem to attract trolls or people who seriously don't comprehend what I'm saying.

Where? It's the internet... that should be self-explanatory. Although I'm a member of a place called FetLife and you run into a lot of idiots there. Most of the subs or Switches I'm friends with say to just ignore them and they basically treat them like the revolting pieces of shit they are.
Outside of that place however, I generally get it whenever the topic comes up.


Also... old thread is old. Do not care if it's locked or not.









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