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its not because they're different, its because these seem to have been specifically picked to intentionally look frightening. i agree with Montreal here, that its part of an act. Nikki Sixx?..lawl..he's using pictures like these because it goes with his image.

i don't know how to explain it any clearer. people normally think things like this are scary because they evoke dark, creepy, and unhappy emotions. most people don't like those feelings.

Okay, that doesn't have anything to do with what I'm asking though. Of course he intentionally picked them, they go with the song. But I don't think they were picked with the intention of being frightening but to emphasis the point of the song. For the record, he took all those pictures himself so I'd venture to say he actually finds these pictures beautiful himself. That and the entire album is based around himself and a book he has and it's more or less a concept album. So I figure he really believes what he's saying and his image is based more on that rather than the other way around. So i don't believe it's an act. Contrary to popular belief, not everything that shocks people was actually meant to shock people. I think he wants to show that there's beauty in everything.

...Then again, I'm an artist at heart so I can understand that concept.

Regardless, that's not what I'm asking.

So it's because society and people in general are judgmental to things that are different and that they don't understand? Yeah, I figured that was it. Guess I understood all along anyway.

It's not just about this song or those images, but anything like those images. The song/video was just something that relates to it. I've seen people get scared and torment people who look and act differently for no other reason besides the fact they're different - hell, I've been on the receiving end of it myself. I never understood why.
But now I do, I can't possibly understand it because I'm not that stupid and judgmental.

On another note, I'm going out tomorrow with my camera to find something I define as beautiful - conventional or not. Anything from the gloomy skies and trees to the trails to the roadkill that sometimes pops up right the fuck outta nowhere (seriously, there was once a dead opossum right in front of my house... I think the bloodstain finally got washed away).
Totally inspired by this song to go out and find the beauty in anything.

Well, yeah some people are revolted by stuff like that. I don't get revolted at things like that but sometimes I can't stand to see because of the pity I feel. I honestly can't imagine how hard life is for some of those people. I'm sure they're beautiful on the inside but sometimes it upsets me to see people who are in those situations. That's the only reason I would have to not want to see images such as those.

However, none of those particular images revolted me. The song is cool and I like the meaning of it etc. I'll certainly listen to the song again.

With your sister being revolted well...no it isn't normal to look like those people. Typically, you don't see people that look like that walking down the street. No I wouldn't be revolted by the person but seeing things like that just doesn't work well with some people. It gets too much for me just seeing people in pain which is what some of these people must have had alot of; mentally or physically.

This particular video isn't really bad though, I didn't find it scary but I can understand why people would.

I don't find it scary, they images simple depict people and things that are not beautiful by society standards;, but really; What is beautiful nowadays? What was beautiful even as recently as 10 years ago has completely changed so while the message is a good one, I wasn't a fan of the song itself.

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First off, great song.

Okay, well I don't personally find those images all that disturbing, but I can most definitely understand why someone would.

The images are sad. Or more so, the provoke sad thoughts. I.E. "What happened to that woman that burned her face like that?" "How did that poor girl lose her legs?". It makes you think off all these sad thoughts, and people start to associate them with themselves. And it's upsetting.
It's not so much the images themselves, but all the scary things they can make you think. I had a dream once I was trapped in a burning hotel by myself, and I couldn't find out how to get out, or even what floor I was on. All the doors were locked and the numbers on the doors were like "40083", so i thought I was so far up that there was no way I was going to get out, and I was going to slowly burn to death then and there and no one would ever find me, and it was scary. I'd think that those are the kind of things this video would make people think. Even if subconsciously, they know there are all kinds of scary ways one could find themselves in those situations.

Then you can take a look at the old-fashioned things in the video, like the camera or the braces. Then people start imagining what it was like without everything today, and how hard everything must of been, and I suppose that can be a bit uncomforatble too. People don't like being sad, and bright colors are potrayed as being uplifting, and people just kind of feed off of that.

Of course everyone's different, and depending on where you live, stuff like this can be portrayed in the media as scary, and that would probably have an influence too.

I hope this helps.

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Now I don't really think that's fair. I admire you having your own opinions about what's beautiful, but so does everyone else. If they seem to mostly have the same opinions, then so be it. Let them. It's not going to effect yours, now is it? People have a side that's a little like that of a leech by nature. We tend to go with what we see. That's not a bad thing - it's just what we are. Not saying we'll like everything we see, BUT NO BODY, is completely original. Not the kids in the skinny jeans and Hollister hoodies, not the scenesters, not the vintage lovers (i.e. hipsters), not the goths, not the lable-less. We've all seen whatever we're doing somewhere, and are doing it because we want to. No need to give people shit for that. None of us are REALLY individuals, in my opinion.

I'm sorry, but you seem way too devoted to trying to stand out and be different. I have a lot of opinions that I've developed because of modern society. And some completely differ. With all due respect, I think you're being ridiculous to think one who embraces society is a drone.

Well someone had to say it.

There is nothing wrong with fitting in with a FEW aspects of people.

For example, Murder is WRONG, necrophilia is WRONG, Sadomasochism can be considered BATTERY in some cases and is therefore WRONG, incest is WRONG, and racism is WRONG!!!!!!


You don't have to be a total fit into society, because that makes you an in-unique mind slave of society but being totally 100% different makes u an unacceptable member of society. Despite how people treat us, we need them to survive.

Welcome to reality, being abnormal is normal, and being too abnormal is unhealthy. People are dickweed followers, but we have to pay attention to them.

THE WORLD IS A BITCH, LIVE WITH IT.

Was that intentionally aimed at me?
That's my point though. Part of you listed off doesn't involve the consent of others.
And on the other side of the coin, just because the majority believes it doesn't make it right. Hurting other isn't right, unless the go and ask for it. Treating people horribly just for being different isn't right. That's the society I'm talking about.

Murder is wrong because it steals a life.
Necrophilia is wrong because the person can't consent.
Sadomasochism isn't inherently wrong because you can consent to it. Fuck if it's considered a batter or not, if you consent then there's no issue.
Incest isn't inherently wrong either, that depends on a variety of things like how they are related, your ages, when the relationship started, among other things.
Racism is wrong because you attack others, assuming they're evil because they're different from you. Same principle as what I'm talking about.

That being said the only thing that bothers me about what you said was the Sadomasochism part. Who cares if it's considered a battery or not? That doesn't mean it's inherently wrong. That's saying "it's wrong because it's illegal". Well what kind of stupid rationale is that. Just because it's illegal doesn't make it wrong be default. It just means someone thought it was wrong and deemed it illegal. It's not wrong because it's illegal. It's illegal because someone thought it was wrong.
That because said, if a person consents then it's not wrong. Consent is more or less the be-all end-all of a person. If they consent to an act, it's their choice, they're not a victim if they want it. Also, in some cases. So basically, what you just said was, it's only wrong if you get caught and it just so happens to be one of those cases.

You know, for whatever reason half the rants I make always dwindle down into people reading too much into it and insulting my intelligence.
You stated that as if I don't know it. I do know it, better than most. That, however, doesn't mean I have to like it. So back the fuck up off me.
Being abnormal is normal, but most people cannot accept this fact. Everyone is weird, but very few accept that about themselves.
Why exactly do we have to pay attention to people who can't think for themselves? Personally, I'd rather pay attention to someone who actually thinks about things.

Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway. This can be locked for all I care, I have my answer.

You know I never said everyone like that is a drone. Look, I often don't complete my thoughts. No one would read anything if I did, so I have to make it shorter and sometimes I forget to write what I really mean. I said she is a drone., she's obsessed with being accepted and will and has sacrificed her own personal dignity to fit in. It's illogical to do such a thing. It's one thing if you're already like that but to change who are just to be accepted? Pointless.

If they don't like you for who you are then you shouldn't waste your time with them. They're worthless pieces of garbage if they'll only like you if you become what they want you to be.

Oh and I'm not trying too hard to not fit in, this is just how I am. Believe me, I could be a lot more extreme if I wanted to be. The thing is, I'd be a hypocrite if i did that. I'd be trying too hard to be someone I'm not either way so I'm just myself - a person who doesn't give a flying rats ass if anyone really likes her or not. I'm not trying too hard, I'm too lazy to do shit like actually trying hard to do something or be someone I'm not.

If I wanted to stand out, I'd be unlike myself. I neither want to stand out or fit in, both go against what I am. I'm simply me, and there isn't any other motherfucker out there like me so trying to fit in? Pointless. Trying to hard to stand out? Well then I'd be jut like all the other attention-seeking whores out there.

Exactly my point. No one seems to actually respect my opinions on the matter so why should I be forced to accept anyone elses opinion on what's beautiful or ugly? Everyone looks at me like I'm nuts for my opinions. Like I have something wrong with my head or something. Everyone over-reacts to my opinions, so why can't I speak out against theirs? At least I realize people have different opinions. Rather than, you know, thinking everyone has the same mind-set as I do. Which explains why people think I'm nuts, because they live in their own little bubble and think everyone believes the same as they do.


Long story short, I don't give a fuck what other people think. The only thing I give a fuck about is to treat human beings like human beings and to not fear what I or anyone else doesn't understand. To not be scared of things so easily, so that I may understand it.
I don't care what people think, I care about how they conduct themselves. And it always, constantly, seems to be that they can attack my beliefs and opinions all they want but as soon as I say something I'm told that I should just deal with it and too accept being treated like I'm insane just for having a different viewpoint. Oh sure, I should respect them but fuck respecting me - oh no, what I believe is too different to be accepted.
Fuck looking at it from an objective viewpoint, fuck trying to understand, let's just crucify her instead.

For the record, I am trying to understand and that's more than I can say for most people. I make the attempt to understand what I do not comprehend, so one has ever given me that courtesy. So I'll say it again, back the fuck up off my case. Don't fucking tell me what to do. Don't act like you comprehend what I'm saying, you're all jumping to asinine conclusions and totally misunderstanding what I'm saying. Don't treat me like a fucking moron, I know all this already. I just don't understand it. It's like knowing 2 plus 2 is 4 but not understand why it's that way.

Oh and one last thing. Fair? Why the in God's name should I be fair? Life isn't fair, that's reality. I've never been an outstandingly fair person. Just maybe, but not fair. If it's not fair to pull back the layers and examine something then you're also not being fair. Even if it wasn't that way, because life isn't fair that means everything is fair game. Why should I hold back for the sake of others or it not being "fair"? That doesn't make any sense.
I owe no fairness to anyone. If I feel like being fair, then I will be. Quite frankly, I don't feel like being fair most of the time... therefore, I'm not. And that's how I am. Don't like it? Get bent.


No, back to what i was first talking about... if no one can answer my fucking question then get lost. You've given me your irrelevant opinions on something that totally misses the point of what I was getting at, and I don't need or want any preaching from people who have no idea what the flying fuck I'm talking about.
Oh wait? Was I just being rude?! Oh well, you guys were being rude to me after all. I accept myself for who I am, and I'm sick of getting treated poorly for not wanting to be a part of the group. You don't have to like me or what I'm like, just accept the fucking reality that I'm not like other people.

FYI, styles may not be original, but people are. Everyone is different in some form or fashion.