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Guys, I can't believe this topic became such a big debate xD

First of all, to the ones who have a religious discussion: please take it somewhere else. I personally am an atheist, so don't get in such things with me, plus, you're REALLY off-topic. Please.

Secondly, to those who think it might be bad if the first relationship is a failure: Thing is, she and I are pretty darn different, and thing is, we have opposing interests, and so on, but we get along nicely. We just listen to totally different music (I'm a bit more...well, I listen to nearly everything except cheap music, she's the one listening to it xD) she's a bit more...let's say, not very intelligent (well, I'm the encyclopedia-dude, so I suppose that's acceptable) and that's it, really. Maybe she's also Miss Popularity and I'm the opposite part of it? (yeah, we had this at a psychology lesson...)

But really, what would be the reasons to worry that you're in a relationship with someone you shouldn't be?

I agree with this. Though there are, of course, some exceptions, and it also depends on the character of each person. Some may let a really shitty first relationship get them down, some may get out of it stronger. ~
Ah, human's complexity.

Suddenly my eyes are open
Everything comes into focus, oh!
We are all illuminated,
Lights are shining on our faces
We are, we are blinded !
We are, we are blinded !

If it is relevant why should it be hid in a closet?


I'm happy to have discussions with atheists, and do so regularly. I'm not afraid of an intellectual challenge. Maybe we can have a chat sometime!

I don't see how what I posted is off topic. If you could explain, that would be great so that I might be able to take into consideration what you say.


Have a nice day!

He is looking for a relationship discussion ,and wouldn't like to discuss the religious aspects of it, because as an atheist he would much rather not involve himself in religion.

I agree with not putting religion into too many discussions but here you kinda have the right to somewhat, since your religion could effect your opinion on dating which...is then your opinion and it's what the thread is about.

From joy to sorrow, yesterday to tomorrow, you've been there. Friends like you are rare, your touch is so gentle,
You're my guardian angel.
Like a blossoming flower spreading your wings in grace, filling my heart with power
by feeling your embrace.

Wherever the wind may blow, we will overcome this war, in times happy or sore, I will never let you go.
With a gentle warm heart and a will of stone, We'll never be apart, You'll never be alone. - John <3

I never meant to come across as trying to force my belief on others, My apologies if that was how it seemed.
I simply just won't except an argument as having any validity when it's based on something that I hold absolutely no stock in watsoever and quite literally has no proven fact behind it in itself.

Saying that people should wait to have sex due to the phsycological and physical consequences of it(STDs and the like) is something that can be backed up with proven fact; it is something I'd consider in a debate.

Saying that people should wait until marriage to have sex because God will banish them to the firey pits of hell if they don't; well. that is just self explanitory.

I believe what I believe, they believe wat they believe and that's fine. If they want to relate something back to their religion and they have some sort of proven statistic or fact to back up said claim, I am more than willing to listen and consider their opinions and beliefs because that's what I deal in, facts and evidence; Not stories and fairy tales.


"Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money."
-George Carlin

The first relationship matters just as much as all other relationships next matter, in general of course. You yourself can decide which relationships were more relevant for you depending on the circumstances, but that goes a bit too deep and subjective.

There is one thing that the first relationships contain in more relevance than the next ones though. The first relationship is the first experience in the world of relationships, it's when you develop confidence in yourself and in the relationship you're in. It's where you find out who you are and how you are when in a relationship. Of course, this can vary from case to case, I'm just speaking in general.

As for counting as experience for the next ones, well. That's not just an aspect of the first relationship, it's an aspect of every single relationship you get involved in. Every relationship will bring new experiences, since every partner will be different, and every single one of these relationships will teach you things, change you and the way you think, all of this counts as experience not just towards relationships but life itself.

"If I do good, people might accuse me of selfish, ulterior motives, but I will still do it. Because I believe no one is malicious, not in their core, in their raw being.
The best in them is clouded by sorrows and fears, take those away and you'll bring out the brightest of lights in them.
Because no one can be happy without being kind, without giving ourselves to another, and we all love to give ourselves, it is our true nature.
That is why, even if I might get disappointed, I'll always give the best I've got. A single candle can light a thousand others and still burn." - Skezra

It's your job to be tired! Moderating duty isn't meant to be warning all those involved in debates without accuracy while drinking orange juice!

It's really the time for humanity to take a dump.

It's the very first thing you say, that I agree with!

It's really the time for humanity to take a dump.

If only you knew the truth...=P